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       Re: #11: Edward Abbey, "Polemic: Industrialism Tourism and 
       the National Parks," from Desert Solitair
       By: yzhu2020 Date: March 3, 2019, 8:40 pm
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       I haven't visited national parks in the US yet... unfortunately.
       Though when I think of them, I think of massive "natural"
       monuments (rocks, mountains, trees, etc.). I also don't discuss
       with people about national parks either, but when I do, they
       almost always the greatness of those natural monuments and how
       it is beautiful to look at. People visit them to see such art of
       mother nature and just feel the famous landmarks that represent
       the States.
       To reply to Annaliese
       From the NY times article, I don't fully understand all of the
       opposition for the public park Roxanne Quimby wanted to build in
       Maine. Were people really that unwilling to give up using their
       snowmobiles and ATVs there? It sounds unreasonable. Because that
       article was written 13 years ago, has public opinion on this
       topic changed since then?
       I think it wasn't that the people didn't want the park, it is
       that they didn't trust Roxanne Quimby; she was a businesswoman
       after all. Not everyone trusts businesspersons because they are
       profit-driven in the eyes on public sometimes. Because of this,
       people might think that she is using her money earned to buy
       land and making profit under the name of "preserving land". In
       addition, banning the use of snowmobiles and hunting hinders the
       benefits of those who engage in one or both of those activities
       (and I am going to assume that they were popular activities or
       else people wouldn't be so opposed).
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       Re: #11: Edward Abbey, "Polemic: Industrialism Tourism and 
       the National Parks," from Desert Solitair
       By: zwalker2020 Date: March 3, 2019, 11:06 pm
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       Like some others here I haven't gone to any national parks, and
       when I think of them I think of them as huge empty (as in nobody
       living there) places that are normally either forests or
       mountains. I think of them as places that are far away from
       cities and are pretty inaccessible. This relates to our
       discussion on friday, where I think of these parks as both
       nature and wilderness (though it's a limited wilderness
       spatially). Personally, I think its best for these parks to be
       preserved as natural habitats for local animals, and we should
       limit trails and roads being built in them, as well as vehicle
       access which might damage the ecosystem there. I think national
       parks should be more focused on preserving the environment than
       being a place for people to visit in their free time (even if
       its fun to visit them). Pretty much the whole country is already
       dominated by human activity, and these parks are kind of the
       last place that nature, and the wilderness, really still has
       dominance. Sure, they can be landmarks at the same time, but
       this shouldn't be their primary reason of existence.
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       Re: #11: Edward Abbey, "Polemic: Industrialism Tourism and 
       the National Parks," from Desert Solitair
       By: ebartel2020 Date: March 4, 2019, 6:37 am
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       The last person did not end with a question so I just picked
       one. The question I am answering is: What is more important to
       value, the people having easy access and being able to enjoy the
       parks or the preservation of land, or is there a way to
       compromise? I found this question to be intriguing because my
       first thought as well if people cannot see the land then how do
       we know how much value it really has. Like a tree falling in the
       woods. I think it is important and would be great to have access
       to these places but if not possible, I think they should not be
       touched. There is more then one way through a national park and
       if by making a place accessible, you are ruining it or making it
       less than, I would think of a different way of entrance or
       simply, not touch it. A question that I am throwing around in my
       head is what is the future of National Parks going to look like?
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       Re: #11: Edward Abbey, "Polemic: Industrialism Tourism and 
       the National Parks," from Desert Solitair
       By: Ahmed_A Date: March 4, 2019, 6:44 pm
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       I will be attempting to answer the following question: what is
       the future of National Parks going to look like?
       This question is hard to answer based on the reading alone as
       both were written more than a decade ago. However, I think that
       the American values remain similar in regards of the
       preservation of “wilderness.” both readings point to people's
       need to see natural sights amidst the city; it gives the public
       illusion that nature is alive within the civilization. Whether a
       National Park is natural or artificial is another dilemma that I
       have been wondering about. Although the purpose of a National
       Park is to preserve nature, the act of preserving is not left to
       the natural ecosystem, but is maintained by humans, which takes
       the natural aspect of it. Regardless, people perceive it as
       natural, which means that National Parks would last as they are,
       due to the public demand.
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