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       Re: Reading 4: New England...
   DIR By: nanaafiaba
       Date: February 18, 2019, 7:57 pm
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       To Sofia:
       I think that these readings were meant to introduce another
       element of environmental history: population. For this reason, I
       found these readings to be important. I think they gave us
       additional insight into the environment's impact on human
       behavior.
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       Re: Reading 4: New England...
   DIR By: jbass
       Date: February 18, 2019, 8:05 pm
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       I also found it very interesting that there was a notion of land
       issues and life before settlers arrived. I was confused at
       certain points but it was clear that there is some connection to
       the settlers and the state land before and after the arival. The
       natives took care of the land and as tribes moved that
       responsibility for the land moved as well. This must have had an
       effect on the environment and the land around the natives and
       the settlers.
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       Re: Reading 4: New England...
   DIR By: ebartel2020
       Date: February 18, 2019, 8:07 pm
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       In the first reading, A Disease and Desolate Wilderness Bradford
       write about Gods role in environment history (that's my
       interpretation I may be incorrect). From my understanding, he
       talks about how these individuals have basically nothing and are
       in horrible conditions, yet, God had "brought them over the vast
       and furious ocean, and delivered them from all the perils and
       miseries" (24). I find it interesting because not everyone has
       the same beliefs but I feel like in a way the author is asking
       the question of: how could they have possibly survived without
       the help of God?
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       Re: Reading 4: New England...
   DIR By: ngood
       Date: February 18, 2019, 8:17 pm
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       Misc thoughts:
       Bradford suggests that the land is the “proper element” of
       humans, not the sea.
       For Bradford and Morton, Native Americans are “wild men” and
       “Salvages (sic),” respectively.
       I noticed several associations of nature with femininity—Morton
       compared nature to a virgin on her wedding bed and called up the
       image of a “fruitfull wombe” while Krech quoted John Josselyn as
       referencing “pregnant valleys.”
       RE: Page 96 of Krech
       I realize that I’m not used to hearing the people who came to
       the New World as immigrants—I’m more used to hearing the terms
       “settlers” or “colonists” (though never “colonisers”). I think
       this difference is key to how we frame narratives of
       colonisation (and to how modern Americans think about history
       and about immigration today—if you never hear the term
       “immigrant” in relation to the Europeans coming to the New
       World, then it’s easier to think of immigration as a relatively
       modern pattern in American history).
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       Re: Reading 4: New England...
   DIR By: Annaliese
       Date: February 18, 2019, 8:29 pm
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       In “Eden” I found the description of the history of New England
       and Massachusetts particularly interesting because even living
       in New England, we never really think about the natural
       resources here and what makes this area of the country special.
       I have never studied the differences in how Native Americans
       used land as opposed to European settlers and the impact this
       would have on the population of each group. I also thought it
       was interesting that even with reports of disease epidemics we
       cannot always identify diseases because the people recording
       this information did not understand it themselves. They did not
       or could not record the number of people who were immune vs the
       ones who were susceptible and out of the number who were
       susceptible how many were infected. Therefore, they could not
       know the effect it had on the overall population.
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