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       chemicals
   DIR By: dustin hite
       Date: February 9, 2012, 7:10 pm
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       Something different:
       How about this, recently in the western part of the county we
       have had many problems with odor calls both EMS and fire
       related.  Here is a clue.  These odors are drug related to the
       production of meth!.  As a first responding EMS person what is
       the best thing to do?  Always remember they think that you have
       no clue as to what you are looking for.  These situations are
       very volitile and can cause severe damage to people and
       equipment becaue the chemicals used are very explosive when
       mixed together.  Funny smells are always something that you need
       to be aware of.  Always think of what is around you not just
       your patient.
       #Post#: 232--------------------------------------------------
       Re: chemicals
   DIR By: mandrade
       Date: February 29, 2012, 8:58 pm
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       There is nothing saying you can not call for assistance. whether
       it be FD or Law enforcement. If something doesnt seem right it
       usaully is'nt. Dont be afraid to use your resouces.
       #Post#: 233--------------------------------------------------
       Re: chemicals
   DIR By: Keith Kulpa
       Date: March 3, 2012, 5:42 am
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       If the situation does not look typcial, you should call PD.  We
       have recently discussed in my department the use of chemicals
       that can be used to commit suicide.  One situation that is
       starting to occur is a combination of chemicals within a
       automobile that can be used to commit suicide.  We discussed the
       scenario of rolling up on a scene and if the patient is passed
       out in a car, be cautious before opening that door.
       #Post#: 240--------------------------------------------------
       Re: chemicals
   DIR By: cmisiak
       Date: March 4, 2012, 9:45 pm
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       Thanks- that is a good reminder.  Tend to be complacent with a
       routine odor call.  As a member of fire department- we do not
       always think of this with each odor call.  Unless alerted by
       something or fire control, we seem to just rush in.
       #Post#: 249--------------------------------------------------
       Re: chemicals
   DIR By: Andy Bennett
       Date: March 5, 2012, 7:57 pm
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       On our BLS bag we carry a CO detector as well for general
       illness calls it is always good to be concious of your
       surroundings as you approach the patient. A good class on meth
       labs is always a plus as well. I know of a call I went on that
       we went for a 941 and I noticed as we walked in a hand gun in
       the room with us and the patient that the police officer missed
       when we walked in. turns out it was a bb gun but it looked real.
       #Post#: 273--------------------------------------------------
       Re: chemicals
   DIR By: 10275013
       Date: March 12, 2012, 12:57 am
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       If it's something that your department hasent ever experienced
       before I think it would be benificial to use other recources
       that our out there.  Always remember personal safty is number .
       If something doesnt seem right safty wise, utilise your police
       departments.  Back out of the scene and stage.  Or stage prior
       to and wait for law enforcment
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