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#Post#: 127--------------------------------------------------
Let's try something different
DIR By: Leslie Myers
Date: January 13, 2012, 7:30 am
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Let's try something new! You start a new topic on something you
would like to discuss..yes it must be EMS related! Think of
something good! A call you have been on and wondered how others
may have reacted to the situation..maybe a discussion on some of
the changes in the protocols...let's try it and see what comes
of it!
Thanks!
#Post#: 133--------------------------------------------------
Re: Let's try something different
DIR By: Brendan
Date: January 20, 2012, 11:56 am
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Not certain I would have pulled the victim up, I'm curious to
know how high he was dangling. I would have tried to get the
victim to the ground instead, especially if it wasn't that far.
I think the victim would be much more stable and easier to treat
and assist if we could get him to the ground.
#Post#: 136--------------------------------------------------
Re: Let's try something different
DIR By: Michael Candella
Date: January 20, 2012, 1:00 pm
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The area where the tower is located is some what remote. You can
see it on Google Earth map its on River Rd. In back of the old
Riverside Bowling lanes. First instints would be to get pt cut
down. It depends on how much help was avialable to package pt.
and what tools where available. It would be less work to lower
pt than pull him up. But could he be stablized when being
lowered or raised. I guess this would fall into a rapid
extracation. And being only one person on the scene you would do
what you could with the least harm to the pt. Also co- worker
proable had limited equipment. With many of the Utility/Phone
maintance companies they are trained for emergencies but do not
carry the equipment with them. Example is all National Grid
Lineman are taught to use a AED in case of electricution but
never carry one on there line trucks. The best answer I guess
would to remove pt from any futher harm then fallow ABC's.
#Post#: 140--------------------------------------------------
Re: Let's try something different
DIR By: cmisiak
Date: January 22, 2012, 7:31 pm
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I agree with most that in that situation if I was
bystander/employee, I would probably attempt to raise him up.
Would worry that I would not be able to safely lower the patient
without further injury. Hard call either way as to best way to
secure present injuries and prevent additional.
#Post#: 141--------------------------------------------------
Re: Let's try something different
DIR By: Leslie Myers
Date: January 23, 2012, 7:15 am
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First: PLEASE DO NOT REFER TO SPECIFIC DEPTS AND OR LOCATIONS OF
THE CALL! ONLY AND I REPEAT ONLY GIVE GENERAL INFORMATION WITH
REGARDS TO THE CALL FOR THIS TRAINING EXERCISE!
There is a reason why the co workers released this person.
There are more serious issues that can occur with suspension
trauma. All persons who work in that type of enviroment are
trained to bring the person to the safest location possible and
not to leave them hanging in the harness,
Can anyone tell me why they do not leave them hanging?
#Post#: 143--------------------------------------------------
Re: Let's try something different
DIR By: Keith Kulpa
Date: January 23, 2012, 9:11 am
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You would not want to leave him hanging I believe due to the
fact you are not able to access any other injuries that may have
happened on the initial fall. Also, a victim may appear stable
while dangling in the air, however if he or she does start to
decompenstate while they are still in the air, you then have to
worry about getting them down quickly and treat them medically.
#Post#: 145--------------------------------------------------
Re: Let's try something different
DIR By: Lisa White
Date: January 23, 2012, 10:09 am
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I guess you wouldn't leave them dangling because the harness
could cut off blood flow too thus adding to your list of
problems.
#Post#: 146--------------------------------------------------
Re: Let's try something different
DIR By: cmisiak
Date: January 23, 2012, 10:21 pm
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I agree with the blood flow but also think the harness might
provide more stabilization being pulled up then lowering it
down.
#Post#: 147--------------------------------------------------
Re: Let's try something different
DIR By: Michael Candella
Date: January 24, 2012, 4:27 pm
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I would think that a number of things apply to getting victims
down. One being cpr. Also you would not want the patient to
decline and worse while still being trapped. Also i would have
to say the harness would have a negative effect on the pt.
#Post#: 154--------------------------------------------------
Re: Let's try something different
DIR By: rulrich
Date: January 26, 2012, 10:02 am
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i wouldnt want to leave the victim hanging because depending on
the type of harness blood flow could become comprimised at some
point, and depending on the angle the pt. is hanging could be a
seriuos issue. obviously the longer the pt. is hanging the
longer the time he/she goes without any treatment .
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