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       Modern Philosophy - the aim of establishing think as scientific
   DIR By: xavierhn
       Date: September 22, 2017, 9:20 pm
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       The only genuine question to address Descartes with is this: how
       does science, as a method and knowledge begin with Descartes?
       When we talk about modern philosophy, we are talking about the
       project of Descartes to found "science" what he called scientia
       universalis, a universal science.
       This concern of founding a 'science' in founding a proper method
       to the demands of an axiomatic knowledge, is found in every
       thinker after Descartes up until Hegel.
       From this desire to found a first philosophy, we are talking
       about the 'end' of philosophy, i.e., the project of philosophy.
       Husserl gives us a very clear picture of this movement in
       philosophy in his question of "Philosophy as a rigorous
       Science".
       Our Question with Heidegger, as he lays out explicitly in "The
       End of Philosophy and the Task for Thinking" is to follow up and
       discover the meaning of another possibility of philosophy, other
       than the realised possibility of science.
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       Re: Modern Philosophy - the aim of establishing think as
       scientific
   DIR By: StircrazyReality
       Date: September 24, 2017, 1:58 am
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       Would you be able to link to where you read Husserl's
       'philosophy as a rigourous science'.
       From reading Cartesian Meditations, I can see that Husserl has a
       very strong association with science.
       I must admit that I have drifted away from science. Perhaps that
       is why I do not gravitate towards philosophy that seeks to align
       itself with science - I was going to pursue a career in science,
       but after having a small taste of it, I decided against it. If I
       were to align myself with science I would do pure science. As I
       am not going to do pure science, perhaps that is why I prefer
       philosophy that does not align itself with science.
       --- Quote from: xavierhn link ---
       >
       > Our Question with Heidegger, as he lays out explicitly in "The
       End of Philosophy and the Task for Thinking" is to follow up and
       discover the meaning of another possibility of philosophy, other
       than the realised possibility of science.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       This resonates with me.
       How can we reveal, in greater detail, the structure of that
       possibility of philosophy that is other than the realised
       possibility of science?
       Where should we direct our studies?
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       Re: Modern Philosophy - the aim of establishing think as
       scientific
   DIR By: xavierhn
       Date: September 27, 2017, 2:06 am
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       I've added Husserl's text on the resource board.
       Here is a quote from Heidegger's seminar of September 7th, 1969:
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       > It is a matter for a few of us to untiringly work outside of
       all publicness to keep alive a thinking that is attentive to
       being, knowing that this work must concern itself with laying
       the foundation, for a distant future, of a possibility of
       tradition— since obviously one cannot settle a two millennia
       heritage in ten or twenty years.
       --- End Quote ---
       To answer your question Mitchell the structure of the
       possibility will be given in experiencing the 'destruction of
       metaphysics'. This is Heidegger's first word on his method in
       Being and Time. From the four seminar there's a paraphrase of
       Heidegger's word on how we understand this method:
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       > He begins by naming the authentic name of the method followed:
       > “destruction”—this must be understood in the strong sense as
       de-struere,“dis-mantling” [“Ab-bauen”], and not as devastation.
       But what is dismantled? Answer: that which covers over the
       meaning of being, the structures amassed upon one another that
       make the meaning of being unrecognizable. Further, destruction
       strives to free the original meaning of being. This original
       meaning is presence. This meaning governs all Greek
       understanding of being, without its knowing it.
       --- End Quote ---
       The possibility of thinking for us today is on this path, and
       this path alone. This is not an arbitrary starting point - it is
       heeding what Heraclitus says "Let us not make random conjectures
       about the most important matters" (Fr. 47).
       Well we are to direct our studies to the history of metaphysics
       as proposed by Heidegger as a forgetting of Greek meaning of
       being. From there, we will be able to understand how Heidegger
       is the first to put forward the truth of presence, or, in other
       words, the meaning of aletheia as a-letheia.
       These two questions of what metaphysics thinks as Hegel says
       'the need of philosophy', and, what Heidegger has opened up, are
       our first study to begin to approach another possibility. I
       think another way of putting it would be, with these two roads
       which are the same, metaphysics and aletheia, we will be in a
       better place to understand a way to overcome the entrenchment of
       nihilism. From here, we will have to update what Heidegger first
       remarked as 'the task of thinking' and put it into our own terms
       in order that we formulate our own task, appropriate to our own
       experience of history.
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