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       Re: Petswodahs
       By: GRACETHEDUCK Date: January 23, 2015, 3:39 pm
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       [quote author=HunsingerTheLearner link=topic=36.msg3700#msg3700
       date=1422003861]
       [quote author=Petswodahs link=topic=36.msg3105#msg3105
       date=1421885369]
       Cyclone, it's essentially when you believe that falling in love
       with a person happens no matter their gender. Why should I care
       what's in the pants if I really, truly love them as a person?
       That's pansexuality. I also don't call my S/Os anything other
       than that. A significant other. Because girlfriend/boyfriend is
       over-glorifying their gender, when in reality, I don't give a
       **** what gender they are. My current S/O happens to be male,
       and I love him more than anything else in this world. End of
       story.
       [/quote]
       Personally, I believe that being gay and pansexual isn't natural
       and isn't very good either, but I also don't believe that people
       should be persecuted over it! It's not nice! I mean, people get
       all like, "You're gay. You're going to Hell." I mean, that just
       being cruel. Except it and go on. I don't understand how anyone
       could like someone of their own sex so much that they would want
       to spend the rest of their life with them, but if they do, it's
       not other people's place to tell them that they are a disgrace
       and not socialize with them. Get a life, people! Being gay is
       not the worst thing in the world! I mean, people get all worked
       up about people being gay, but what about murderers, rapists,
       drug-dealers? They, in my opinion, are far, far worse than gay
       people. I'm not saying that I think that it's perfectly fine to
       be gay, in fact, I severely disprove of it, but I don't go
       around telling people that and preaching at them.
       [/quote]
       This is sorta like me. I don't approve of homo-sexuality, but
       it's not my place to tell some-one who to and who not to fall in
       love with. Then there's that problem with people talking crap
       about homo-sexuals, and it's ridiculous really. They can choose
       what they want to be, and there's no place for you to interfere.
       We're all people after all.
       #Post#: 3801--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Petswodahs
       By: qazs Date: January 23, 2015, 5:49 pm
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       [quote author=HunsingerTheLearner link=topic=36.msg3700#msg3700
       date=1422003861]
       [quote author=Petswodahs link=topic=36.msg3105#msg3105
       date=1421885369]
       Cyclone, it's essentially when you believe that falling in love
       with a person happens no matter their gender. Why should I care
       what's in the pants if I really, truly love them as a person?
       That's pansexuality. I also don't call my S/Os anything other
       than that. A significant other. Because girlfriend/boyfriend is
       over-glorifying their gender, when in reality, I don't give a
       **** what gender they are. My current S/O happens to be male,
       and I love him more than anything else in this world. End of
       story.
       [/quote]
       I wish the world was more like this. We have no rights to judge
       or condemn. But we do so anyways. While I don't like I don't
       care. I don't approve nor go against it. It doesn't matter life
       belongs to those that go after it. And they are so good for
       them. I am just glad to find some people that are just as
       intolerant here. Can't stand the b**** and moaning of the media
       and people about this Like they don't commit sins.
       Personally, I believe that being gay and pansexual isn't natural
       and isn't very good either, but I also don't believe that people
       should be persecuted over it! It's not nice! I mean, people get
       all like, "You're gay. You're going to Hell." I mean, that just
       being cruel. Except it and go on. I don't understand how anyone
       could like someone of their own sex so much that they would want
       to spend the rest of their life with them, but if they do, it's
       not other people's place to tell them that they are a disgrace
       and not socialize with them. Get a life, people! Being gay is
       not the worst thing in the world! I mean, people get all worked
       up about people being gay, but what about murderers, rapists,
       drug-dealers? They, in my opinion, are far, far worse than gay
       people. I'm not saying that I think that it's perfectly fine to
       be gay, in fact, I severely disprove of it, but I don't go
       around telling people that and preaching at them.
       [/quote]
       #Post#: 3812--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Petswodahs
       By: Petswodahs Date: January 23, 2015, 6:42 pm
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       I am opening up a debate thread about this.
       #Post#: 3819--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Petswodahs
       By: Neamhain Blackmailer Date: January 23, 2015, 7:49 pm
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       [quote author=HunsingerTheLearner link=topic=36.msg3700#msg3700
       date=1422003861]Personally, I believe that being gay and
       pansexual isn't natural and isn't very good either, but I also
       don't believe that people should be persecuted over it! It's not
       nice! I mean, people get all like, "You're gay. You're going to
       Hell." I mean, that just being cruel. Except it and go on. I
       don't understand how anyone could like someone of their own sex
       so much that they would want to spend the rest of their life
       with them, but if they do, it's not other people's place to tell
       them that they are a disgrace and not socialize with them. Get a
       life, people! Being gay is not the worst thing in the world! I
       mean, people get all worked up about people being gay, but what
       about murderers, rapists, drug-dealers? They, in my opinion, are
       far, far worse than gay people. I'm not saying that I think that
       it's perfectly fine to be gay, in fact, I severely disprove of
       it, but I don't go around telling people that and preaching at
       them.
       [/quote]
       You ought to be more careful. Whenever you disapprove of
       something, as you did with atheism, you need to double  check
       yourself to make sure you do not offend anyone. You become
       overly critical and, even though this time you said you don't
       have the right to judge, you still said it made no sense. You're
       last sentence was a bit funny because you [i]are[/I] telling and
       preaching it. Cyclone stated that what you said about atheism
       was mean. It's the same with this.
       #Post#: 3823--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Petswodahs
       By: TheCyclonicStorm Date: January 23, 2015, 7:53 pm
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       [quote author=Petswodahs link=topic=36.msg3812#msg3812
       date=1422060143]
       I am opening up a debate thread about this.
       [/quote]
       Very good.
       [quote author=Neamhain Blackmailer link=topic=36.msg3819#msg3819
       date=1422064146]
       [quote author=HunsingerTheLearner link=topic=36.msg3700#msg3700
       date=1422003861]Personally, I believe that being gay and
       pansexual isn't natural and isn't very good either, but I also
       don't believe that people should be persecuted over it! It's not
       nice! I mean, people get all like, "You're gay. You're going to
       Hell." I mean, that just being cruel. Except it and go on. I
       don't understand how anyone could like someone of their own sex
       so much that they would want to spend the rest of their life
       with them, but if they do, it's not other people's place to tell
       them that they are a disgrace and not socialize with them. Get a
       life, people! Being gay is not the worst thing in the world! I
       mean, people get all worked up about people being gay, but what
       about murderers, rapists, drug-dealers? They, in my opinion, are
       far, far worse than gay people. I'm not saying that I think that
       it's perfectly fine to be gay, in fact, I severely disprove of
       it, but I don't go around telling people that and preaching at
       them.
       [/quote]
       You ought to be more careful. Whenever you disapprove of
       something, as you did with atheism, you need to double  check
       yourself to make sure you do not offend anyone. You become
       overly critical and, even though this time you said you don't
       have the right to judge, you still said it made no sense. You're
       last sentence was a bit funny because you [i]are[/I] telling and
       preaching it. Cyclone stated that what you said about atheism
       was mean. It's the same with this.
       [/quote]
       Agreed. It's like when you state what skin colour a specific
       person is - you and your friends may not think it's offensive,
       but others might.
       #Post#: 3832--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Petswodahs
       By: Petswodahs Date: January 23, 2015, 8:05 pm
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       [quote author=Neamhain Blackmailer link=topic=36.msg3819#msg3819
       date=1422064146]
       [quote author=HunsingerTheLearner link=topic=36.msg3700#msg3700
       date=1422003861]Personally, I believe that being gay and
       pansexual isn't natural and isn't very good either, but I also
       don't believe that people should be persecuted over it! It's not
       nice! I mean, people get all like, "You're gay. You're going to
       Hell." I mean, that just being cruel. Except it and go on. I
       don't understand how anyone could like someone of their own sex
       so much that they would want to spend the rest of their life
       with them, but if they do, it's not other people's place to tell
       them that they are a disgrace and not socialize with them. Get a
       life, people! Being gay is not the worst thing in the world! I
       mean, people get all worked up about people being gay, but what
       about murderers, rapists, drug-dealers? They, in my opinion, are
       far, far worse than gay people. I'm not saying that I think that
       it's perfectly fine to be gay, in fact, I severely disprove of
       it, but I don't go around telling people that and preaching at
       them.
       [/quote]
       You ought to be more careful. Whenever you disapprove of
       something, as you did with atheism, you need to double  check
       yourself to make sure you do not offend anyone. You become
       overly critical and, even though this time you said you don't
       have the right to judge, you still said it made no sense. You're
       last sentence was a bit funny because you are[/I] telling and
       preaching it. Cyclone stated that what you said about atheism
       was mean. It's the same with this.
       [/quote]
       Agreed. It's like when you state what skin colour a specific
       person is - you and your friends may not think it's offensive,
       but others might.
       [/quote]
       Hunsinger: Fact of the matter is, you are obviously trying not
       to be judgmental although you are, deep down. I thank you so so
       much for this. That said, the line in bold is what got me. As a
       heterosexual person (I am assuming), you're not [i]supposed to
       understand. Just like Nick doesn't understand how you can like
       someone of the opposite sex and live your life with them. It's
       all completely biological. People are born gay and can't help
       it, homosexuality is just natural to them. I was born bisexual,
       but I decided that gender is just a tiny, tiny, thing compared
       to love, so I don't pay attention to it (which makes me
       pansexual, a form of bisexuality). Like I stated before, I have
       an S/O who I LOVE and can't help it. Here is my gay friend who
       is really awesome, and yes I've noted he's pretty attractive, as
       far as males go, but that doesn't matter. He asks me out, and if
       he doesn't know my sexuality, then he's taking a risk and that
       shows dedication. And if he'll care about me, and I care about
       him (Which I did and do) then it's totally and completely worth
       it. But... let's take this to the debate thread I opened up!
       #Post#: 3837--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Petswodahs
       By: TheCyclonicStorm Date: January 23, 2015, 8:09 pm
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       Hmph. The rules you set, regarding the requirement to watch the
       videos was a rather bad idea. Limiting discussion, that is. And
       then everyone has to sit through half an hour of people spouting
       words.
       #Post#: 3851--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Petswodahs
       By: Petswodahs Date: January 23, 2015, 8:19 pm
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       Cyclone, in a debate it is absolutely essential to have a
       prompt. A prompt is NOT 'Homosexuality.' A prompt is a video,
       and you say Okay, who is right, who is wrong? Or a situation,
       and you ask who is right, who is wrong? I always like there
       being multiple sides because it reminds me that there is no
       right and wrong. Only a struggle for one side to prove
       superiority. For your comment, Cyclone, I will say you have to
       watch one, and the others are optional resource videos. But
       often, debates take LOTS of research. I went into a debate on
       human nature once, and spent time watching 3 45-minute TED
       speeches, reading and fully annotating 4 articles, looking up
       scientific webpages on sadism and other stuff of the sort,
       taking 19 pages worth of notes, and then I spent an hour
       organizing those notes into an argument for debate. Debates take
       research, Cyclone. I understand people's internet might be
       sucky, which is why I will appease you and make one mandatory,
       the others optional.
       #Post#: 3854--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Petswodahs
       By: TheCyclonicStorm Date: January 23, 2015, 8:24 pm
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       I'm aware of what a debate is, Colin. I'm not twelve.
       Oh, hold on. I am. Yet I still understand basic principles.
       #Post#: 3860--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Petswodahs
       By: Petswodahs Date: January 23, 2015, 8:32 pm
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       I'm just explaining my reasoning, Cyclone
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