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       #Post#: 36943--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Philosophy+
   DIR By: Oafish Team
       Date: November 19, 2015, 1:53 am
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       --- Quote from: Sarah Von Sapata link ---
       >
       > Yeah, it's a good point. I can't believe there's a group of
       black people use the hashtag on social media '#f*ckparis'
       because they're claiming 'we get killed everyday and nobody
       gives a damn' which is not true. People are claiming its karma
       for the slave trade, and that more should have died because
       apparently black lives don't matter... It's really heartbreaking
       to hear people think like that, when black lives do matter and
       situations that disrespect black people are dealt with firmly
       these days... No matter, they are being hypocritical anyways
       because they are disregarding the lives of hundreds whilst
       claiming they themselves are disregarded...
       >
       > Sorry just had to get that out. It's really ****ing me off.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I think we can all learn from here not to be too quick to speak
       out like that. The last thing anyone of us wants to be called is
       a hypocrite.
       #Post#: 37052--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Philosophy+
   DIR By: Neamhain Blackmailer
       Date: November 19, 2015, 9:34 pm
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       --- Quote from: Sarah Von Sapata link ---
       >
       > Yeah, it's a good point. I can't believe there's a group of
       black people use the hashtag on social media '#f*ckparis'
       because they're claiming 'we get killed everyday and nobody
       gives a damn' which is not true. People are claiming its karma
       for the slave trade, and that more should have died because
       apparently black lives don't matter... It's really heartbreaking
       to hear people think like that, when black lives do matter and
       situations that disrespect black people are dealt with firmly
       these days... No matter, they are being hypocritical anyways
       because they are disregarding the lives of hundreds whilst
       claiming they themselves are disregarded...
       >
       > Sorry just had to get that out. It's really pīssing me off.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       A minority of people who are classified as minorities do that.
       Whatever they claim is a wrongdoing done upon them, they
       willingly accept when it is done to others. They say that they
       are being discriminated against, but most of that discrimination
       comes from them segregating themselves to gain attention and
       sympathy.
       #Post#: 37164--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Philosophy+
   DIR By: Sarah von Sapata
       Date: November 20, 2015, 6:01 pm
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       Mmm...
       I have another topic to discuss. Refugees! Specifically the
       Syrian Refugee Crisis. Are you guys for or against it, and what
       are your thoughts?
       #Post#: 37205--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Philosophy+
   DIR By: Neamhain Blackmailer
       Date: November 21, 2015, 7:41 am
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       I do not think that any country should be obliged to let in any
       people or refugees. I'm sure it's not especially delightful for
       those refugees to be stuck where they are, but it's also not
       especially delightful for a country have their people killed by
       letting in a terrorist. Given this, I'm not especially sure on
       how I feel about letting refugees in. I think each country
       should be allowed to make that decision without any pressure
       being put on them. If I was in charge of a country, I would not
       let them in unless they had no place to go and all other places
       were firm in their decision to not let more refugees in.
       #Post#: 37228--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Philosophy+
   DIR By: HunsingerTheLearner
       Date: November 21, 2015, 8:37 am
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       --- Quote from: Neamhain Blackmailer link ---
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       > I do not think that any country should be obliged to let in
       any people or refugees. I'm sure it's not especially delightful
       for those refugees to be stuck where they are, but it's also not
       especially delightful for a country have their people killed by
       letting in a terrorist. Given this, I'm not especially sure on
       how I feel about letting refugees in. I think each country
       should be allowed to make that decision without any pressure
       being put on them. If I was in charge of a country, I would not
       let them in unless they had no place to go and all other places
       were firm in their decision to not let more refugees in.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I agree. I would probably give them shelter, food, and maybe
       money to support themselves, but they couldn't come in.
       #Post#: 37271--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Philosophy+
   DIR By: K
       Date: November 21, 2015, 4:35 pm
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       International aid never helps if the situation is bad enough
       that they leave their homes.
       I would let refugees in but put them in institutions for a
       while. Say a month or two. This should help regulate the amount
       of refugees in society but I don't think that'll be sufficient
       at keeping out terrorists.
       #Post#: 37284--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Philosophy+
   DIR By: Tux
       Date: November 21, 2015, 9:23 pm
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       I have a large opinion piece I must write about refugees right
       now. Cuz it's due tomorrow.
       Plus I always thought of philosophy just as that elective I
       chose.
       #Post#: 37330--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Philosophy+
   DIR By: Sarah von Sapata
       Date: November 22, 2015, 5:20 am
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       I don't find it fair that we are letting in how many thousand
       refugees, when the government should take a look at our own
       farmers for instance - some of them are really struggling and
       the last thing they need is more demand for food. I don't have a
       problem with refugees for the most, until they start trying to
       change the countries they come to. Australia is a multicultural
       country, if you are going to come here, you'll have to learn to
       tolerate other people's traditions and beliefs whilst they
       tolerate yours. I get that they are innocent people, trying to
       flee a war-stricken country and find a place where they can
       raise their family in safety and peace. But there are other
       people waiting for housing, the suburbs they're gonna move into
       are already full enough... Surely out of those 12,000 refugees,
       one of them is going to be a terrorist... I feel like
       continually letting these refugees in is like welcoming the
       demise of a multicultural nation; letting them turn it into the
       places they came from, war-stricken and troubled...
       I'm tired and it's late so that post is probably quite risky to
       make, as I'm sure I've worded something incorrectly in there and
       made it sound rude. I hope nobody takes offence to it, I'll take
       a look tomorrow and hope I didn't stuff up... XD
       #Post#: 37355--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Philosophy+
   DIR By: Neamhain Blackmailer
       Date: November 22, 2015, 11:20 am
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       I never really thought of it that way, but you do have a point.
       By letting refugees in, you are letting a whole new group of
       people with their own beliefs in. There is a group of them, so
       they have the power to not accept other cultures. They can
       change the overall culture and atmosphere of a country as well
       as make a large impact on the government.
       You need to not worry about offending people so much. You often
       make good points, but by writing that you might have "worded
       something incorrectly" or "made it sound rude," you are
       devaluing your opinion. Sometimes it's better to make your
       statement and let people react how they will. Unless, of course,
       it's something extremely controversial and you know people will
       be offended (like telling someone all of their beliefs are wrong
       whether they're prolife beliefs or Jewish beliefs).
       #Post#: 37372--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Philosophy+
   DIR By: Sarah von Sapata
       Date: November 22, 2015, 3:14 pm
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       Mmm...
       Haha, thanks for that. :) I can see how it would be better to
       simply state an opinion sometimes, you're right.
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