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#Post#: 14847--------------------------------------------------
Wasps sign another AB
DIR By: stoquin
Date: January 17, 2019, 6:49 am
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I thought we had the link with All Blacks. Just announced Wasps
have signed Jeff Toomaga-Allen a prop from Hurricanes. Add that
to Sapoonga, Fekitoa and Brad Shields that makes 4. Not sure
there will be any left for us.
Although I thought it was going to be younger players we were
supposed to be getting but no sign of any yet.
Will we get any do you think.. discuss!
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Re: Wasps sign another AB
DIR By: Everyone’s a Quinner
Date: January 17, 2019, 6:53 am
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You have a point there. Hopefully someone good from NZ will come
our way! As long as it’s not Zac Guildford. I’m going to call it
now and put my bets on Aaron Smith wearing the famous quarters
once Care either moves on or retires
#Post#: 14856--------------------------------------------------
Re: Wasps sign another AB
DIR By: Camquin
Date: January 17, 2019, 7:59 am
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RFU regulations contain the statement
13.4.3 Foreign Players
At Levels 4 and above, a Club may not play or select
as a replacement or substitute
more than two Foreign Players in any match
Now I know European players - including Scots Welsh and Irish -
are not foreign.
And European then extends to 'Kolpak'.
But I did not believe that extended to NZ.
#Post#: 14857--------------------------------------------------
Re: Wasps sign another AB
DIR By: marlowish
Date: January 17, 2019, 8:03 am
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Why would any Kiwi come because of a deal with quins. When this
was announced I did not see how it would work or what the
benefits would be. A player will go where he wants to go which
will to a large extent be determined by salary and prospects.
Any link between the Ab and Quins will not be of any
consideration ion his thinking.
#Post#: 14858--------------------------------------------------
Re: Wasps sign another AB
DIR By: poorfour
Date: January 17, 2019, 9:02 am
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--- Quote from: Camquin link ---
>
> RFU regulations contain the statement
>
> 13.4.3 Foreign Players
> At Levels 4 and above, a Club may not play or
select as a replacement or substitute
> more than two Foreign Players in any match
>
> Now I know European players - including Scots Welsh and Irish
- are not foreign.
> And European then extends to 'Kolpak'.
> But I did not believe that extended to NZ.
>
>
>
--- End Quote ---
No. ALL EU players count as "home" - at least until March 29th.
Kolpak is a ruling that extends that to countries with whom the
EU has a significant trading relationship, which I believe
includes SA, NZ and Aus but not Argentina or PI.
However, the RFU bonus applies only for EQPs.
#Post#: 14860--------------------------------------------------
Re: Wasps sign another AB
DIR By: InsertQuinsPunHere
Date: January 17, 2019, 9:13 am
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--- Quote from: marlowish link ---
>
> Why would any Kiwi come because of a deal with quins. When
this was announced I did not see how it would work or what the
benefits would be. A player will go where he wants to go which
will to a large extent be determined by salary and prospects.
Any link between the Ab and Quins will not be of any
consideration ion his thinking.
>
--- End Quote ---
Unless, for example, NZ waive their "you must play in NZ to get
selected" rule for players at the EU club(s) they have a deal
with?
#Post#: 14861--------------------------------------------------
Re: Wasps sign another AB
DIR By: TomBuckQuin
Date: January 17, 2019, 9:14 am
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--- Quote from: poorfour link ---
>
> No. ALL EU players count as "home" - at least until March
29th. Kolpak is a ruling that extends that to countries with
whom the EU has a significant trading relationship, which I
believe includes SA, NZ and Aus but not Argentina or PI.
>
> However, the RFU bonus applies only for EQPs.
>
--- End Quote ---
Not quite, Kolpak covers South Africa and the Pacific Islands.
Players from Aus or NZ are either deemed "foreign" or have some
kind of ancestry in either a Kolpak country or EU. So Andrew
Mehrtens used his SA ancestry (grandfather I think it was) to
qualify as Kolpak - thus leaving us free to have another
"foreign" player on the field if we needed to...
I'd guess the same is true of Wasps' NZ contingent - most of
them will have some other passport that qualifies them as
"non-foreign".
#Post#: 14887--------------------------------------------------
Re: Wasps sign another AB
DIR By: Blucherquin
Date: January 17, 2019, 3:18 pm
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Either way, come the Brexit that the foaming angry old men on
this board so desire - this all goes out the window. So we’ll
see.
#Post#: 14888--------------------------------------------------
Re: Wasps sign another AB
DIR By: honkytonk
Date: January 17, 2019, 3:33 pm
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Does it count if players are already signed though??? I heard
something regarding a few counties (cricket) are looking at
getting their Kolpack players signed up on longer deals to
prevent any issues???
#Post#: 14889--------------------------------------------------
Re: Wasps sign another AB
DIR By: JammyGit
Date: January 17, 2019, 4:31 pm
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--- Quote from: marlowish link ---
>
> Why would any Kiwi come because of a deal with quins. When
this was announced I did not see how it would work or what the
benefits would be. A player will go where he wants to go which
will to a large extent be determined by salary and prospects.
Any link between the Ab and Quins will not be of any
consideration ion his thinking.
>
--- End Quote ---
Because if the choice is excellent money at Quins, with regular
contact with AB coaches, player management that suits NZ, and
potentially selection on tours, vs being cut off by the ABs in
return for even more money...
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