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Re: Worcester Quins QF
DIR By: SiB
Date: January 14, 2019, 1:43 pm
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I’d love to go back to Clermont, but I’m assuming it won’t
happen
Oh well see you in Agen if you are going
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Re: Worcester Quins QF
DIR By: The Absolute Quintet
Date: January 14, 2019, 4:51 pm
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Clermont away in the semi looks most likely but we’ll have to
beat someone away first.....................
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Re: Worcester Quins QF
DIR By: SwindonQuin
Date: January 14, 2019, 4:52 pm
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Worcester have qualified as group winners, 5 points clear of
Ospreys but even if Ospreys get a bonus point win they would
only be tied with Worcester and the tie break is first based on
head to head results of which Worcester won both, hence they
have qualified for the quarters. Simples!
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Re: Worcester Quins QF
DIR By: Quins Head
Date: January 14, 2019, 5:51 pm
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Thanks for that Swindon but the point people are making is the
article says they have a home Quatre which they don’t Simples
indeed
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Re: Worcester Quins QF
DIR By: guest257
Date: January 15, 2019, 12:55 am
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We need a result on Friday. This is one of those threads that
could come back to haunt us...!
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Re: Worcester Quins QF
DIR By: Camquin
Date: January 15, 2019, 1:33 am
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The runners up are place 6-8 even if they have more points than
the pool winners.
But there are five pools, so one pool winner goes away.
Which looks like it will be us as we cannot get to 22 points.
But the most important thing is not to slip on the banana skin
and actually win the pool.
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Re: Worcester Quins QF
DIR By: stoquin
Date: January 15, 2019, 2:04 am
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Yes Worcester have qualified as group winners and a 4 point win
against Stadt will see them get a home draw as we can match them
on points they will have won 5 games to our 4 but if they were
to lose then we get home draw. Simples
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Re: Worcester Quins QF
DIR By: Fearless Fred
Date: January 15, 2019, 3:27 am
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--- Quote from: stoquin link ---
>
> Yes Worcester have qualified as group winners and a 4 point
win against Stadt will see them get a home draw as we can match
them on points they will have won 5 games to our 4 but if they
were to lose then we get home draw. Simples
>
--- End Quote ---
Actually, if you read the rules in the link I posted above,
number of games won does not enter into the calculation, even
for teams in the same pool. For qualifiers from different pools
with the same number of match points, the ranking is decided by:
(i) the best aggregate points difference from the pool stage; or
(ii) if equal, the number of tries scored in the pool stage; or
(iii) if equal, the club with the fewest number of players
suspended under Disciplinary Rules in the pool stage; or
(iv) if unresolved, by drawing lots.
So, if we get a try bonus point and Worcester don't we end up on
the same number of match points. We currently have an aggregate
points difference of +50, Worcester are on +20. Assuming there's
no wild scenario where we score 4 tries, they score 3 but
somehow they manage to improve their points difference by more
than 30 points plus whatever our winning margin was, then we
would be ranked above them in the rankings for the QF draw.
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Re: Worcester Quins QF
DIR By: T-Bone
Date: January 15, 2019, 5:49 am
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As Camquin says, given that we've only won our home games so far
and have only won 2 away games this season (I think) let's just
get the win first and then worry about the permutations
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Re: Worcester Quins QF
DIR By: stoquin
Date: January 16, 2019, 9:12 am
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FF you are dead right as usual and I did read your earlier post.
Memory going or need to add more water!
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