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       Re: England squad for a three-day alignment camp
   DIR By: Rugbycat
       Date: September 7, 2026, 7:47 am
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       --- Quote from: JammyGit link ---
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       > Think we'll be stuck with JvP for another 12-18 months,
       particularly given Mitchell's precipitous drop in form last
       season. It's early days for the extremely talented generation
       coming through and Borthwick is a conservative man.
       >
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       A anagram of conservative man is caveman investor
       #Post#: 157363--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England squad for a three-day alignment camp
   DIR By: Quinky
       Date: September 7, 2026, 9:00 am
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       --- Quote from: FrostAndFire link ---
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       > I lived in Essex for a long time, and you cannot deny that
       parts of it are a little too close. If I was talking about
       Norfolk, I'd say first cousins.
       >
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       How do you know you're at a Norfolk wedding?
       Everyone's on the same side of the church.
       Ba doom tish... I'm here all week.
       #Post#: 157366--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England squad for a three-day alignment camp
   DIR By: Banstead Quin
       Date: September 7, 2026, 9:33 am
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       --- Quote from: FrostAndFire link ---
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       > I lived in Essex for a long time, and you cannot deny that
       parts of it are a little too close. If I was talking about
       Norfolk, I'd say first cousins.
       >
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       Where did you live, Billericay???? I'll concede they're a bit
       weird there but lets not bring the whole county down as a
       result!!!
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       Re: England squad for a three-day alignment camp
   DIR By: Banstead Quin
       Date: September 7, 2026, 9:37 am
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       --- Quote from: FrostAndFire link ---
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       > I predict that Borthwick will get us far enough into the world
       cup that the suits will be satisfied, all the while not in any
       way threatening to win it. We will be competently dull, and
       another opportunity for the sport to flourish will be wasted.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I agree, I think they'll get another semi final without much
       effort and the "are you not entertained" nonsense will start
       again. I think Wales might beat us in the group though which
       would mean a QF exit. I'll also make the prediction now that the
       Boks won't win it. Getting that in early.
       #Post#: 157368--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England squad for a three-day alignment camp
   DIR By: poorfour
       Date: September 7, 2026, 11:34 am
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       It's all part of World Rugby's Obligatory Tuipulotu Law, which
       requires all unions to have at least one of them in one of their
       senior international squads
       #Post#: 157369--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England squad for a three-day alignment camp
   DIR By: Quinky
       Date: September 8, 2026, 12:44 am
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       --- Quote from: Banstead Quin link ---
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       > I'll also make the prediction now that the Boks won't win it.
       Getting that in early.
       >
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       That's fighting talk! 😁
       I think SA are playing the cycle well. Bringing through and
       developing players, trying combinations, keeping some of the old
       guard around,  but only if they can justify being there. I don't
       see Rassie falling for sentimentality... if guys like Eben need
       to dropped,  he'll do it. The big question is Siya; still a
       great player,  not a clear choice on form, but a brilliant
       leader and captain.
       I'm backing the Boks to make it three in a row.
       #Post#: 157393--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England squad for a three-day alignment camp
   DIR By: Banstead Quin
       Date: September 9, 2026, 6:00 am
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       Funny how we all see different things in the performances and
       team selections, Quinky.
       I do feel that NZ will be 10-15 points better by the world cup
       and I don't see the Boks improving beyond where they are. They
       have played well but the games always finish within a score. It
       might be another Rassie master plan to look just good enough but
       his reliance on the older players I think may bite back by this
       time next year.
       #Post#: 157395--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England squad for a three-day alignment camp
   DIR By: Quinky
       Date: September 9, 2026, 9:05 am
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       --- Quote from: Banstead Quin link ---
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       > Funny how we all see different things in the performances and
       team selections, Quinky.
       >
       > I do feel that NZ will be 10-15 points better by the world cup
       and I don't see the Boks improving beyond where they are. They
       have played well but the games always finish within a score. It
       might be another Rassie master plan to look just good enough but
       his reliance on the older players I think may bite back by this
       time next year.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I can see why it may seem that way. I think people place too
       much emphasis on age though. Many of the older guys are
       maintained so well that age makes little difference. On
       Saturday, Siya had one of best games in a long while; Eben
       looked like his old self; De Allende and Kriel are as good as
       ever. Looking at the broader squad, there is a huge amount of
       young talent, and it's interesting to note that even when Kolbe
       went off, there was a quick re-shuffle and they barely noticed
       his absence.
       I suspect Rassie would say that they do enough to win, and he's
       right. And on Saturday, the AB's last try flattered them on the
       scoresheet.
       I'm not sure the ABs will improve that much though. I'd be more
       inclined to look out for (on a single game basis) France and
       Argentina, and of course Australia. I haven't looked at the
       draw, nor do I even know if it's been done yet, but I suspect
       any team facing two of those teams by the quarters will be in
       serious danger.
       #Post#: 157396--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England squad for a three-day alignment camp
   DIR By: Banstead Quin
       Date: September 9, 2026, 9:32 am
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       All good points but if they lose those players you mention, the
       players coming through don't have the experience of being in a
       hole like this team did before winning in 2019 and although
       their game time is all managed, I can just see them coming off
       the boil.
       From memory, the ABs & Boks would meet in the semi final so that
       would be the game where it comes good for them, for me but that
       is part of the joy of it I suppose. It'll be more enjoyable than
       watching England, that's for sure...
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       Re: England squad for a three-day alignment camp
   DIR By: Quinky
       Date: September 9, 2026, 9:38 am
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       --- Quote from: Banstead Quin link ---
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       > All good points but if they lose those players you mention,
       the players coming through don't have the experience of being in
       a hole like this team did before winning in 2019 and although
       their game time is all managed, I can just see them coming off
       the boil.
       >
       > From memory, the ABs & Boks would meet in the semi final so
       that would be the game where it comes good for them, for me but
       that is part of the joy of it I suppose. It'll be more enjoyable
       than watching England, that's for sure...
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Ain't that the truth! [emoji1]
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