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       Re: England XV named for the French game
   DIR By: FrostAndFire
       Date: June 19, 2026, 1:02 pm
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       Complete humiliation.
       These are good players, but no one seems to know where they're
       supposed to be or what they're supposed to be doing.
       A continuation from the terrible 6N.
       #Post#: 155601--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England XV named for the French game
   DIR By: JammyGit
       Date: June 19, 2026, 1:04 pm
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       Great to see George Ford, a 33 year old fly half with 113 caps,
       play the full 80 in a season where he's played 26 matches for
       (now) over 2000 minutes of rugby, including playing the full 80
       in 6 of the 7 internationals (he missed 8 minutes of the first
       one).
       Superb - he really needs the miles in his legs, the experience
       of being on the pitch, and the security of being trusted to play
       the full 80 in an uncapped match.
       What's that skippy? He's lost 9 of his last 12 matches for club
       & country and had a succession of injury issues before this
       season? Surely not, we'd never flog a player for no reason
       without an obvious benefit in mind
       #Post#: 155603--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England XV named for the French game
   DIR By: MaidstoneQuin
       Date: June 19, 2026, 1:50 pm
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       That was utterly disgraceful. All it essentially was, was living
       proof why we should have canned SB after the 6 nations. Frankly
       the whole pack in the second half shouldn’t even be holding
       tackle bags against SA in the warm up yet alone play.
       #Post#: 155604--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England XV named for the French game
   DIR By: RodneyRegis
       Date: June 19, 2026, 1:50 pm
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       I thought we at least tried stuff - sure we dropped everything
       but certainly rhe 2nd quarter we had numerous good attacks and
       threatened their line loads.
       Ford kicked away good ball a lot. Marcus got better, cadan was v
       good. Quirke looked decent when he came on.
       Blamire should never darken an England squad again.
       Ben curry was pants.
       #Post#: 155605--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England XV named for the French game
   DIR By: JammyGit
       Date: June 19, 2026, 5:18 pm
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       The guardian
       [Quote] There was an encouraging display from prolific teenage
       wing Noah Caluori, who did his prospects of being named in Steve
       Borthwick’s tour squad no harm while Cadan Murley also made an
       impact on the other flank.[/quote]
       Cadan in 51 minutes vs Noah's 80 made a lot more metres, missed
       fewer tackles, made more breaks, lost the ball 0 times to
       Caluori's 5 (worst of either team), made more offloads, and
       actually scored a try.
       But Caluori's the story despite constantly losing the ball in
       the air and on the ground, and unfortunately getting ragdolled
       in contact on multiple occasions.
       I don't doubt he's likely to have a long and impressive career
       but gosh let's actually watch these matches rather than sticking
       to a narrative, eh
       #Post#: 155611--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England XV named for the French game
   DIR By: FrostAndFire
       Date: June 20, 2026, 3:46 am
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       --- Quote from: JammyGit link ---
       >
       > The guardian
       >
       > Cadan in 51 minutes vs Noah's 80 made a lot more metres,
       missed fewer tackles, made more breaks, lost the ball 0 times to
       Caluori's 5 (worst of either team), made more offloads, and
       actually scored a try.
       >
       > But Caluori's the story despite constantly losing the ball in
       the air and on the ground, and unfortunately getting ragdolled
       in contact on multiple occasions.
       >
       > I don't doubt he's likely to have a long and impressive career
       but gosh let's actually watch these matches rather than sticking
       to a narrative, eh
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       This kind of thing drives me crazy. We used to get it for
       Freddie Stewart as the commentators praised his brilliance in
       the air just as he spilled the ball for the third time in the
       match.
       #Post#: 155616--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England XV named for the French game
   DIR By: Rocker
       Date: June 20, 2026, 6:45 am
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       That really was a pretty shocking spike by England. It was
       frankly embarrassing how much bull they cost up in contact.
       Don't get the hype with calorie certainly based on this match.
       But I think he's too young and inexperienced to really be
       playing internationals. I'm sure he'll improve. Ewels and Izekwe
       have never really been international standard. We might have
       been better giving game time to some youngsters
       #Post#: 155617--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England XV named for the French game
   DIR By: FrostAndFire
       Date: June 20, 2026, 7:07 am
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       --- Quote from: Rocker link ---
       >
       > That really was a pretty shocking spike by England. It was
       frankly embarrassing how much bull they cost up in contact.
       Don't get the hype with calorie certainly based on this match.
       But I think he's too young and inexperienced to really be
       playing internationals. I'm sure he'll improve. Ewels and Izekwe
       have never really been international standard. We might have
       been better giving game time to some youngsters
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Agreed on Calouri. He should still be playing U20s
       internationals. On the other hand, this was a low-stakes game to
       try him in, which is kind of what you're asking for when you say
       they should give game time to youngsters. He just needs to not
       be in the actual test teams.
       #Post#: 155618--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England XV named for the French game
   DIR By: Rocker
       Date: June 20, 2026, 7:31 am
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       That really was a pretty shocking spike by England. It was
       frankly embarrassing how much bull they cost up in contact.
       Don't get the hype with calorie certainly based on this match.
       But I think he's too young and inexperienced to really be
       playing internationals. I'm sure he'll improve. Ewels and Izekwe
       have never really been international standard. We might have
       been better giving game time to some youngsters
       #Post#: 155620--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England XV named for the French game
   DIR By: FrostAndFire
       Date: June 20, 2026, 8:42 am
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       --- Quote from: Rocker link ---
       >
       > That really was a pretty shocking spike by England. It was
       frankly embarrassing how much bull they cost up in contact.
       Don't get the hype with calorie certainly based on this match.
       But I think he's too young and inexperienced to really be
       playing internationals. I'm sure he'll improve. Ewels and Izekwe
       have never really been international standard. We might have
       been better giving game time to some youngsters
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       You can say that again.
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