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       RFU plans to bring Taylor Swift to Twickenham ...
   DIR By: Lock5
       Date: May 13, 2026, 4:10 pm
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       RFU's plans to bring Taylor Swift to Twickenham as bosses aim to
       add £500MILLION to coffers.
       Looking more like R&T Council, Met Police, SWR, [Twickenham
       Residents] are looking at this again.
  HTML https://www.dailymail.com/sport/rugbyunion/article-15815411/rfu-taylor-swift-twickenham-plans.html
       #Post#: 154139--------------------------------------------------
       Re: RFU plans to bring Taylor Swift to Twickenham ...
   DIR By: FrostAndFire
       Date: May 13, 2026, 4:24 pm
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       What position is she going to play? I'd guess a fly half or
       maybe on the wing. Can't see her doing very well in the pack.
       #Post#: 154140--------------------------------------------------
       Re: RFU plans to bring Taylor Swift to Twickenham ...
   DIR By: Archquin
       Date: May 13, 2026, 4:54 pm
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       Back scrubber ?
       #Post#: 154147--------------------------------------------------
       Re: RFU plans to bring Taylor Swift to Twickenham ...
   DIR By: Rugbycat
       Date: May 14, 2026, 2:39 am
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       On a serious note, looking at the article what has really
       changed, it is about Richmond council approving more events.
       The Railway company can cope with England playing to a full
       stadium, so should be able to cope with a concert, The Met
       Police, who I retired from a couple of years back, will be
       dealing with a concert somewhere in London, if it was not at
       Twickenham it would be somewhere else in London.
       It all comes down to if the council are concerned about the RFU
       moving, which may well happen if they are not allowed to utilise
       there major asset, costly renovation of a stadium you can only
       use for rugby is not economically sound.
       If the RFU did move the stadium the damage to the local economy
       would be massive, the local residents must have noticed a huge
       stadium when they purchased their properties, unless they are
       120 years old.
       #Post#: 154149--------------------------------------------------
       Re: RFU plans to bring Taylor Swift to Twickenham ...
   DIR By: never sleep
       Date: May 14, 2026, 2:56 am
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       --- Quote from: Rugbycat link ---
       >
       > On a serious note, looking at the article what has really
       changed, it is about Richmond council approving more events.
       >
       > The Railway company can cope with England playing to a full
       stadium, so should be able to cope with a concert, The Met
       Police, who I retired from a couple of years back, will be
       dealing with a concert somewhere in London, if it was not at
       Twickenham it would be somewhere else in London.
       >
       > It all comes down to if the council are concerned about the
       RFU moving, which may well happen if they are not allowed to
       utilise there major asset, costly renovation of a stadium you
       can only use for rugby is not economically sound.
       >
       > If the RFU did move the stadium the damage to the local
       economy would be massive, the local residents must have noticed
       a huge stadium when they purchased their properties, unless they
       are 120 years old.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       The problem was that the RFUs proposal was a bit half baked.
       Rugby events typically happen on weekend afternoons and there is
       little commuter traffic / school traffic / etc to contend with
       and they have many hours afterwards to get the crowds home.
       The RFU was wanting to have events on week nights.
       That means that school busses would need diverting.
       The A316 would get have a lot of people crossing at rush hour
       and traffic diversions would be in place during this period.
       There was no consideration for the post gig crowds getting home.
       E.g. Trains would have stopped running before the crowds would
       have made it to the station (unless they chose to miss the
       encore.)
       There were many, many more issues with that they hadn't thought
       about.
       There wasn't much to their proposal to resolve most of these
       issues. The biggest idea was to put up a few new signs.
       So - they were (quite rightly) sent away to rethink.
       The local residents have been invited to the RFU for information
       sharing next Tuesday or Thursday from 5:00 to 7:30.
       The time is an issue for me, but I will try to get along to one
       of the sessions to see if their proposal has changed.
       #Post#: 154152--------------------------------------------------
       Re: RFU plans to bring Taylor Swift to Twickenham ...
   DIR By: Camquin
       Date: May 14, 2026, 3:22 am
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       The article is complete clickbait - but then this is the Daily
       Mail.
       There is no plan for TS concerts in the foreseeable future.
       And if she can sell out Wembley, she is not going to play a
       reduced capacity Twickenham - so until they get permission to
       open the top tier, the biggest shows are not coming. And that is
       some years off.
       But it is an excuse to have a picture of her legs.
       Also, Wembley has permission for 50 events a year, on a quick
       count I make it 30 nights over this summer. So Wembley and
       presumably Tottenham have room for more events - and they have
       fewer access problems. So it might not be that easy to sell 15
       shows.
       And the £500m is over five years, if they get permission for 15
       full capacity events and manage to find artists to fill them at
       full price.
       Even if they raise £500 million, it is less than the cost of the
       necessary upgrades.
       #Post#: 154154--------------------------------------------------
       Re: RFU plans to bring Taylor Swift to Twickenham ...
   DIR By: Rugbycat
       Date: May 14, 2026, 4:14 am
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       --- Quote from: Camquin link ---
       >
       > The article is complete clickbait - but then this is the Daily
       Mail.
       >
       > There is no plan for TS concerts in the foreseeable future.
       >
       > And if she can sell out Wembley, she is not going to play a
       reduced capacity Twickenham - so until they get permission to
       open the top tier, the biggest shows are not coming. And that is
       some years off.
       >
       > But it is an excuse to have a picture of her legs.
       >
       > Also, Wembley has permission for 50 events a year, on a quick
       count I make it 30 nights over this summer. So Wembley and
       presumably Tottenham have room for more events - and they have
       fewer access problems. So it might not be that easy to sell 15
       shows.
       >
       >
       >
       > And the £500m is over five years, if they get permission for
       15 full capacity events and manage to find artists to fill them
       at full price.
       >
       > Even if they raise £500 million, it is less than the cost of
       the necessary upgrades.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Twickenham would be in competition with Spurs not Wembley, 55000
       v 60000, and apealing to mid level acts, no stadium will ever
       fill all of it's slots, Taylor Swift, Lana del Rey and others
       who can sell out multiple nights at Wembley are not going to
       book Twickenham.
       The Sound at Spurs is far better than Twickenham, so they would
       also need to upgrade that, but really in London you have Wembley
       for 92000 and Spurs for 60000 and then the O2 arena for 20000.
       Twickenham would have a market and is in a far nicer if hard to
       get to location.
       #Post#: 154156--------------------------------------------------
       Re: RFU plans to bring Taylor Swift to Twickenham ...
   DIR By: never sleep
       Date: May 14, 2026, 4:25 am
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       --- Quote from: Rugbycat link ---
       >
       > Twickenham would be in competition with Spurs not Wembley,
       55000 v 60000, and apealing to mid level acts, no stadium will
       ever fill all of it's slots, Taylor Swift, Lana del Rey and
       others who can sell out multiple nights at Wembley are not going
       to book Twickenham.
       >
       > The Sound at Spurs is far better than Twickenham, so they
       would also need to upgrade that, but really in London you have
       Wembley for 92000 and Spurs for 60000 and then the O2 arena for
       20000.
       >
       > Twickenham would have a market and is in a far nicer if hard
       to get to location.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I'm not sure this is correct.
       You are correct that currently Twickenham is limited to 55k.
       But, part of the last proposal from the RFU was to increase this
       so that it would host bigger crowds.
       It looks as though the RFU are trying to compromise to say that
       mid week events will have smaller crowds initially.  But, until
       we get the details next week, we won't really know.
       #Post#: 154158--------------------------------------------------
       Re: RFU plans to bring Taylor Swift to Twickenham ...
   DIR By: Yareet
       Date: May 14, 2026, 4:33 am
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       --- Quote from: Rugbycat link ---
       >
       > Twickenham would be in competition with Spurs not Wembley,
       55000 v 60000, and apealing to mid level acts, no stadium will
       ever fill all of it's slots, Taylor Swift, Lana del Rey and
       others who can sell out multiple nights at Wembley are not going
       to book Twickenham.
       >
       > The Sound at Spurs is far better than Twickenham, so they
       would also need to upgrade that, but really in London you have
       Wembley for 92000 and Spurs for 60000 and then the O2 arena for
       20000.
       >
       > Twickenham would have a market and is in a far nicer if hard
       to get to location.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Plus the Olympic Stadium. Which does at least mean you have
       stadia spread across East, North, North West and South West
       London.
       #Post#: 154159--------------------------------------------------
       Re: RFU plans to bring Taylor Swift to Twickenham ...
   DIR By: Rugbycat
       Date: May 14, 2026, 4:39 am
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       --- Quote from: never sleep link ---
       >
       > I'm not sure this is correct.
       > You are correct that currently Twickenham is limited to 55k.
       > But, part of the last proposal from the RFU was to increase
       this so that it would host bigger crowds.
       > It looks as though the RFU are trying to compromise to say
       that mid week events will have smaller crowds initially.  But,
       until we get the details next week, we won't really know.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Why would you book a 82000 seat venue when you can book a 92000
       seat venue if you can sell them out, Wembley is a regular venue
       where the sound is a given, Twickenham is not.
       Twickenham would need to be priced a fair amount lower to
       attract the acts that book Wembley, the RFU are being naive if
       they think that people will book Twickenham just because it is
       there.
       There will never be two acts in London big enough to play
       Wembley and Twickenham at same time, and transport and policing
       would not allow it.
       The RFU need to make sure there is a market for a 82000 seat
       venue, there is but it is smaller than they seem to think.
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