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       Re: Sale v Sarries 
   DIR By: FrostAndFire
       Date: April 20, 2026, 12:26 pm
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       > I'd say a few other things have undermined us more!
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       True, but we've won three games, which is the same as Sale and
       more than Gloucester and Newcastle. We're behind both because of
       bonus points. Sale have 10, Gloucester have 8 despite only
       winning 2 matches. And even Newcastle have 3 bonus points.
       Basically, we almost never score 4 tries in a match, and we
       almost never come within 7 points of sides who beat us.
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       Re: Sale v Sarries 
   DIR By: Brown Bottle
       Date: April 20, 2026, 2:42 pm
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       --- Quote from: FrostAndFire link ---
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       > True, but we've won three games, which is the same as Sale and
       more than Gloucester and Newcastle. We're behind both because of
       bonus points. Sale have 10, Gloucester have 8 despite only
       winning 2 matches. And even Newcastle have 3 bonus points.
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       > Basically, we almost never score 4 tries in a match, and we
       almost never come within 7 points of sides who beat us.
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       When discussing rubbish, I'm not sure the relative quality of
       said rubbish is particularly significant.
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       Re: Sale v Sarries 
   DIR By: FrostAndFire
       Date: April 20, 2026, 2:56 pm
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       > When discussing rubbish, I'm not sure the relative quality of
       said rubbish is particularly significant.
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       Because if you're getting really close in scores, you're not far
       off winning, and if you're scoring plenty of tries, you're not
       far off winning. If you're doing neither, what do you have to
       build on?
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       Re: Sale v Sarries 
   DIR By: Brown Bottle
       Date: April 20, 2026, 3:47 pm
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       --- Quote from: FrostAndFire link ---
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       > Because if you're getting really close in scores, you're not
       far off winning, and if you're scoring plenty of tries, you're
       not far off winning. If you're doing neither, what do you have
       to build on?
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       Oh yeah, that's fair enough. Sorry, I wasn't so much commenting
       on your POV as on the general malaise affecting the bottom four,
       and particularly Quins.
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