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#Post#: 151340--------------------------------------------------
Where do we go from here?
By: euroquin Date: March 21, 2026, 12:34 pm
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After another shambles, again at home, I think I am realising
that my long-term measured and reasonable view of our future
really isn't tenable any more.
I have no confidence that any of our senior men's team coaching
staff are going to be able to turn this around, even in the
medium to long term, let alone this season.
Time to change the whole lot. We should also think about moving
on our Strength and Conditioning team, given the continual,
lengthy list of absentees. Also everyone currently in charge of
recruitment and retention.
We need to completely separate the business side (where LD has
been very good) from the rugby side. We need an experienced,
heavyweight Director of Rugby who can appoint the whole coaching
team and be in charge of recruitment and retention and playing
style.
If the owners (who have been terrific for the club for so long)
feel they can't afford the related costs, then it might be time
for new franchise owners who feel that they can.
#Post#: 151344--------------------------------------------------
Re: Where do we go from here?
By: KentQuin Date: March 21, 2026, 12:47 pm
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Get a decent DOR in and two new props and a hooker, and things
can turnaround very quickly.
I couldn't tell you what the gameplan was today and
ever-changing selection points to muddled thinking.
Baxter is class and Delgado has looked reasonable in the few
minutes he's had, but our next best options are academy players
(Hobson and Streeter).
Hooker remains a massive issue and the reluctance to play Turner
has been farcical given how poor Walker has been.
Difficult to put a gameplan into action when you can't get at
least parity up front and secure your own ball.
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Re: Where do we go from here?
By: FrostAndFire Date: March 21, 2026, 12:55 pm
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Find someone who can coach the line out and scrum. I don't know
what's happened with Adam Jones. We used to have a dominant
scrum. Does he just not have the material to work with? Or is
not able to do it anymore?
#Post#: 151348--------------------------------------------------
Re: Where do we go from here?
By: KentQuin Date: March 21, 2026, 12:57 pm
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[quote author=FrostAndFire link=topic=8007.msg151347#msg151347
date=1774115710]
Find someone who can coach the line out and scrum. I don't know
what's happened with Adam Jones. We used to have a dominant
scrum. Does he just not have the material to work with? Or is
not able to do it anymore?
[/quote]
Not the materials, I'm my opinion. A poor Gloucester side on the
whole but you'd take VRR and Fasogbon over Kerrod and Williams
any day of the week and twice on Sunday.
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Re: Where do we go from here?
By: FrostAndFire Date: March 21, 2026, 12:58 pm
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[quote author=KentQuin link=topic=8007.msg151348#msg151348
date=1774115825]
Not the materials, I'm my opinion. A poor Gloucester side on the
whole but you'd take VRR and Fasogbon over Kerrod and Williams
any day of the week and twice on Sunday.
[/quote]
So what would the excuse be with Delgado and Walker? Both are
internationals, but neither look it.
#Post#: 151350--------------------------------------------------
Re: Where do we go from here?
By: Rugbycat Date: March 21, 2026, 12:58 pm
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[quote author=euroquin link=topic=8007.msg151340#msg151340
date=1774114473]
After another shambles, again at home, I think I am realising
that my long-term measured and reasonable view of our future
really isn't tenable any more.
I have no confidence that any of our senior men's team coaching
staff are going to be able to turn this around, even in the
medium to long term, let alone this season.
Time to change the whole lot. We should also think about moving
on our Strength and Conditioning team, given the continual,
lengthy list of absentees. Also everyone currently in charge of
recruitment and retention.
We need to completely separate the business side (where LD has
been very good) from the rugby side. We need an experienced,
heavyweight Director of Rugby who can appoint the whole coaching
team and be in charge of recruitment and retention and playing
style.
If the owners (who have been terrific for the club for so long)
feel they can't afford the related costs, then it might be time
for new franchise owners who feel that they can.
[/quote]I really don't think it is about the costs, the club
could make a profit, it is about recruiting a DoR and head coach
who can give the team direction and having a succession plan,
for when people leave.
Someone buying the club, would likely invest in enlarging the
stadium as a 20-25k stadium makes more sense than the big games,
or moving to a. Racing 92 type of stadium to give another
revenue stream.
The main problem all the clubs face is the TV rights deal is
about half the amount it should be, a decent deal would make
every club except Saracens and Sale, who are never going to make
a profit, viable investments.
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Re: Where do we go from here?
By: KentQuin Date: March 21, 2026, 1:08 pm
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[quote author=FrostAndFire link=topic=8007.msg151349#msg151349
date=1774115910]
So what would the excuse be with Delgado and Walker? Both are
internationals, but neither look it.
[/quote]
Let's please stop calling Walker an international like he's some
kind of 50 cap stalwart. Scraping into a few squads as
third-choice a few seasons ago doesn't make him international
class.
#Post#: 151353--------------------------------------------------
Re: Where do we go from here?
By: Brown Bottle Date: March 21, 2026, 1:09 pm
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[quote author=Rugbycat link=topic=8007.msg151350#msg151350
date=1774115921]
...
The main problem all the clubs face is the TV rights deal is
about half the amount it should be
...
[/quote]
Why "should" it be twice as much?
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Re: Where do we go from here?
By: FrostAndFire Date: March 21, 2026, 1:11 pm
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[quote author=KentQuin link=topic=8007.msg151352#msg151352
date=1774116511]
Let's please stop calling Walker an international like he's some
kind of 50 cap stalwart. Scraping into a few squads as
third-choice a few seasons ago doesn't make him international
class.
[/quote]
The point is that he has at some point been in the top four or
five hookers in England. If you can't keep him at a decent
Premiership level from there, then you're doing something wrong.
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Re: Where do we go from here?
By: Iamsnakes Date: March 21, 2026, 1:31 pm
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Radiohead?
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