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       #Post#: 145986--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ellie Kildunne nominated for SPOTY
   DIR By: T-Bone
       Date: December 16, 2025, 5:06 pm
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       I think any of them other than the two footballers would be
       fairly deserving. The footballers weren't really very good. The
       standard was poor, especially that laughable penalty shootout.
       Lando Norris was arguably the second best driver. Verstappen got
       so close with an inferior car, albeit without a teammate
       battling him.
       Would like kikdunne to win but sadly I doubt she'll be top 3
       #Post#: 145987--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ellie Kildunne nominated for SPOTY
   DIR By: DOK
       Date: December 16, 2025, 5:08 pm
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       --- Quote from: Yareet link ---
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       > You can vote here
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       >
  HTML https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/articles/ckgdke2r7w3o
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       To be fair, that lets you vote for team of the year. You have to
       vote during the show for the actual SPOTY.
       [quote=BBC FAQs]How can I vote?
       In order to cast your vote, you must sign in to your BBC account
       which you can do here
  HTML https://www.bbc.co.uk/signin.
       If you do not already have a BBC
       account, you will need to register before you can vote here.
       Once you have created a BBC account, you are then ready to go.
       You are advised to sign in to your BBC account before the vote
       opens.
       During the live show the presenters will let you know when the
       vote has opened and closed. You can vote online at
       www.bbc.co.uk/spoty, using the BBC Sport app or by scanning the
       QR code which will take you directly to the vote page.
       The QR code will be displayed on screen during the show with all
       other voting information. You can use your mobile, tablet or
       computer to access the QR code. When the QR code is displayed on
       your screen during the show, using your device, open your camera
       and hover over the QR code for a couple of seconds, this should
       take you straight through to the SPOTY vote. If you cannot get
       the code to work, you can still access the online vote in the
       usual way by visiting www.bbc.co.uk/spoty
       BBC SPOTY FAQs here
  HTML https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/articles/c14vky10nl3o
       [/quote]
       #Post#: 145988--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ellie Kildunne nominated for SPOTY
   DIR By: DOK
       Date: December 16, 2025, 5:22 pm
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       2025 Sports Personality of the Year Winner odds from Ladbrokes
       [table]
       [tr][td]Chloe Kelly[/td][td]5/1[/td][/tr]
       [tr][td]Ellie Kildunne[/td][td]50/1[/td][/tr]
       [tr][td]Hannah Hampton[/td][td]66/1[/td][/tr]
       [tr][td]Lando Norris[/td][td]3/1[/td][/tr]
       [tr][td]Luke Littler[/td][td]20/1[/td][/tr]
       [tr][td]Rory McIlroy[/td][td]8/13[/td][/tr]
       [/table]
       It's not looking good for our Ellie!
       #Post#: 145990--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ellie Kildunne nominated for SPOTY
   DIR By: Yareet
       Date: December 17, 2025, 1:53 am
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       --- Quote from: DOK link ---
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       > To be fair, that lets you vote for team of the year. You have
       to vote during the show for the actual SPOTY.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       TBF, DOK, I was replying to a post about the Team of the year
       not being a public vote.
       #Post#: 145991--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ellie Kildunne nominated for SPOTY
   DIR By: poorfour
       Date: December 17, 2025, 3:14 am
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       --- Quote from: Yareet link ---
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       > You can vote here
       >
       >
  HTML https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/articles/ckgdke2r7w3o
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Thanks for letting me know - that's a change from previous years
       (though I haven't followed SPOTY for a while so I clearly missed
       when they shifted).
       #Post#: 146026--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ellie Kildunne nominated for SPOTY
   DIR By: poorfour
       Date: December 17, 2025, 1:47 pm
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       And: this year, apparently. It's almost like it's a conspiracy
       against rugby
       #Post#: 146028--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ellie Kildunne nominated for SPOTY
   DIR By: championes
       Date: December 17, 2025, 3:53 pm
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       I mean if Rory doesn’t get it, it’ll be a travesty. 6th player
       ever to do the career grand slam and stuck it to the foul
       uncouth yanks on their home turf.
       Ellie getting a nomination is great for rugby.
       Also most players are utterly devoid of personality because
       they’re just nice posh boys.
       #Post#: 146030--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ellie Kildunne nominated for SPOTY
   DIR By: Brown Bottle
       Date: December 17, 2025, 4:45 pm
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       --- Quote from: poorfour link ---
       >
       > And: this year, apparently. It's almost like it's a conspiracy
       against rugby
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Why’s that?
       #Post#: 146031--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ellie Kildunne nominated for SPOTY
   DIR By: poorfour
       Date: December 17, 2025, 5:01 pm
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       --- Quote from: Brown Bottle link ---
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       > Why’s that?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Until this year, team of the year was decided by a panel.rather
       than public vote, which meant that it usually went to the most
       deserving team rather than the one most familiar to the public.
       The Red Roses this year put the cap on a period of dominance
       that is pretty much unprecedented across any sport since
       Redgrave and Pinsent stopped competing, but because it's a
       public vote it's unlikely that they'll win.
       I was being tongue in cheek, but the public vote consistently
       over represents familiarity and under represents achievement
       #Post#: 146032--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ellie Kildunne nominated for SPOTY
   DIR By: Camquin
       Date: December 17, 2025, 5:39 pm
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       Being professional and mainly playing against semi-pro sides
       will do that.
       They are still magnificent athletes - but there are really only
       three teams with the resources, the England, New Zealand and
       France.
       It is to the RFU's credit that they have supported the women's
       game to this level.
       And the PWR is attracting the best players from around the world
       - so individuals on those trams are getting better.
       It is hard to know if the PWR teams break even, as they are
       mainly attached to Premiership clubs who spend much more on the
       men's side, and have the facilities in place for the women to
       use.
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