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       #Post#: 145601--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Etzebeth in trouble 
   DIR By: JammyGit
       Date: December 5, 2025, 1:37 am
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       --- Quote from: Quinky link ---
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       > Any comments on what they said about Mann?
       >
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       That his actions didn't warrant an attempted blinding?
       #Post#: 145604--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Etzebeth in trouble 
   DIR By: deadlyfrom5yardsout
       Date: December 5, 2025, 2:49 am
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       From Stinky...."....Not condoning it or trying to play it down,
       ...."
       Well,some might say that, but in defending it at all, it is
       difficult to not appear as though you are, tbh.....
       #Post#: 145609--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Etzebeth in trouble 
   DIR By: Quinky
       Date: December 5, 2025, 6:21 am
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       --- Quote from: Yareet link ---
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       > Sorry Quinks, appreciate you’re supporting your man but the
       most damning comment for me is that Eben admitted everything was
       dying down. He was in essence massively over-reacting to having
       his shirt grabbed.
       >
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       Not supporting him at all. He deserved a ban and he got one. It
       was clearly an overreaction.
       My question was about the actions of the other player. The
       report also states that he made contact with Ben's face, had his
       forearm across his face, and was extremely aggressive.
       For the hard of thinking (not you), there were several players
       involved. I'm interested in the actions of others too. Eben has
       been dealt with.
       #Post#: 145610--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Etzebeth in trouble 
   DIR By: Quinky
       Date: December 5, 2025, 6:22 am
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       --- Quote from: deadlyfrom5yardsout link ---
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       > From Stinky...."....Not condoning it or trying to play it
       down, ...."
       >
       >
       > Well,some might say that, but in defending it at all, it is
       difficult to not appear as though you are, tbh.....
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Not defending it at all, Dangly.
       #Post#: 145611--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Etzebeth in trouble 
   DIR By: Quinky
       Date: December 5, 2025, 6:22 am
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       --- Quote from: JammyGit link ---
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       > That his actions didn't warrant an attempted blinding?
       >
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       I really hope you're not a lawyer.
       #Post#: 145614--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Etzebeth in trouble 
   DIR By: JammyGit
       Date: December 5, 2025, 6:53 am
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       Me too.
       I'm not sure what you're getting at, Quinky. Nothing in the
       report suggests that Mann did anything to warrant getting
       eyegouged. I think I'm missing your point, can you spell it out
       for me?
       #Post#: 145627--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Etzebeth in trouble 
   DIR By: Brown Bottle
       Date: December 5, 2025, 8:17 am
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       From Etzebeth's Wikipedia article:
       --- Quote from: Personal life ---
       > ...Etzebeth's greatest fear is Wales flanker Alex Mann. Giving
       evidence to a World Rugby disciplinary panel in December 2025,
       Etzebeth admitted being afraid that Mann - who was four inches
       shorter and 15kgs lighter - would "rag doll" him, causing him to
       lash out and deliberately eye-gouge him in terror .[27]
       --- End Quote ---
       #Post#: 145640--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Etzebeth in trouble 
   DIR By: Quinky
       Date: December 5, 2025, 12:16 pm
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       --- Quote from: JammyGit link ---
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       > Me too.
       >
       > I'm not sure what you're getting at, Quinky. Nothing in the
       report suggests that Mann did anything to warrant getting
       eyegouged. I think I'm missing your point, can you spell it out
       for me?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I could, but you clearly struggle with comprehension. I've never
       said his actions warranted getting eyegouged. Please show me
       where I did, if I'm mistaken; if not, please stop trying to make
       me looking stupid, as it reflects badly on you.
       I pointed out that Mann - according to the report - wasn't a
       shrinking violet. I don't know if pinning someone to the ground
       with a forearm across the face is even a yellow card offence,
       but it also states he made contact with Eben's face. I was
       asking if you had any comment about Mann's actions.
       For the avoidance of doubt, I don't think any provocation
       warranted Eben's actions. I'm separating the two. Maybe you
       could try to do the same.
       #Post#: 145643--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Etzebeth in trouble 
   DIR By: JammyGit
       Date: December 5, 2025, 1:00 pm
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       Yes, I did fail to comprehend your point, which is why I asked
       for clarification. Not sure why I'm getting this kind of
       response.
       Anyway, to answer your question, I don't really care about
       Mann's actions. They sound like nothing out of the ordinary for
       an on field fracas and as I didn't make any claim about him
       being an angel or whatever I'm not sure why it matters at all.
       It's extremely irrelevant compared to Etzebeth's deliberate eye
       gouge a little while later, and I'm still lacking the reading
       comprehension to understand why you're asking me about it.
       #Post#: 145649--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Etzebeth in trouble 
   DIR By: Quinky
       Date: December 5, 2025, 3:18 pm
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       --- Quote from: JammyGit link ---
       >
       > Yes, I did fail to comprehend your point, which is why I asked
       for clarification. Not sure why I'm getting this kind of
       response.
       >
       > Anyway, to answer your question, I don't really care about
       Mann's actions. They sound like nothing out of the ordinary for
       an on field fracas and as I didn't make any claim about him
       being an angel or whatever I'm not sure why it matters at all.
       It's extremely irrelevant compared to Etzebeth's deliberate eye
       gouge a little while later, and I'm still lacking the reading
       comprehension to understand why you're asking me about it.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       It's called a discussion. It's where different people ask
       questions of each other, rather than just listening to one
       person's point of view.
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