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       #Post#: 145584--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Etzebeth in trouble 
   DIR By: DOK
       Date: December 4, 2025, 12:39 pm
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       To be fair, he got a ban of 18 weeks. His good disciplinary
       record was part of the reason for the reduction to 12.
       12 weeks doesn't sound like much, but 3 months sounds a
       long(ish) time.
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       Re: Etzebeth in trouble 
   DIR By: Brown Bottle
       Date: December 4, 2025, 12:45 pm
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       --- Quote from: DOK link ---
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       > To be fair, he got a ban of 18 weeks. His good disciplinary
       record was part of the reason for the reduction to 12.
       > 12 weeks doesn't sound like much, but 3 months sounds a
       long(ish) time.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       18 weeks on a scale from 0 - 204+. Makes you wonder what you'd
       have to do to get, say, 36 weeks.  I wouldn't like to see the
       footage of a 52 week ban.
       #Post#: 145586--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Etzebeth in trouble 
   DIR By: Quinky
       Date: December 4, 2025, 1:02 pm
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       --- Quote from: Brown Bottle link ---
       >
       > 18 weeks on a scale from 0 - 204+. Makes you wonder what you'd
       have to do to get, say, 36 weeks.  I wouldn't like to see the
       footage of a 52 week ban.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Again, such a shame you weren't on the panel.
       #Post#: 145587--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Etzebeth in trouble 
   DIR By: Quinky
       Date: December 4, 2025, 1:03 pm
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       --- Quote from: FrostAndFire link ---
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       > Maybe. Or maybe the repeated SA tantrums about how badly
       they're treated paid off.
       >
       > We'll see when we get the written verdict, because there
       didn't look like any mitigation at the time.
       >
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       Considering the previous ban handed down to Rassie, that's about
       as ludicrous a statement as even you could make.
       #Post#: 145589--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Etzebeth in trouble 
   DIR By: FrostAndFire
       Date: December 4, 2025, 3:23 pm
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       --- Quote from: Quinky link ---
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       > Considering the previous ban handed down to Rassie, that's
       about as ludicrous a statement as even you could make.
       >
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       It upsets you when people disagree with you, doesn't it? Maybe
       have a little sit down.
       #Post#: 145590--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Etzebeth in trouble 
   DIR By: Yareet
       Date: December 4, 2025, 3:52 pm
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       --- Quote from: Rugbycat link ---
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       > Will be interesting to see the written verdict, like this one.
       >
       >
  HTML https://resources.worldrugby-rims.pulselive.com/worldrugby/document/2025/04/23/2240ef1c-f034-46d5-9ba5-5624be02a999/250329-Judicial-Hearing-Decision-USA-12-Kristie-Kirshe.pdf
       >
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       Your wish, etc.
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       Interesting that Eben hasn’t suggested anyone went for his eyes
       first
       #Post#: 145591--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Etzebeth in trouble 
   DIR By: Quinky
       Date: December 4, 2025, 4:24 pm
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       --- Quote from: FrostAndFire link ---
       >
       > It upsets you when people disagree with you, doesn't it? Maybe
       have a little sit down.
       >
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       Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they're not out to
       get you.
       #Post#: 145592--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Etzebeth in trouble 
   DIR By: JammyGit
       Date: December 4, 2025, 4:44 pm
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       Pretty unequivocal stuff in that judgment... It must have been
       deliberate, obvious pressure on the eye, and the claims of Mann
       doing similar to provoke him completely unjustified.
       Can't remember the last time one of these ended up with the
       panel saying the player knew exactly what they were doing. What
       a scumbag.
       #Post#: 145598--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Etzebeth in trouble 
   DIR By: Quinky
       Date: December 4, 2025, 11:58 pm
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       --- Quote from: JammyGit link ---
       >
       > Pretty unequivocal stuff in that judgment... It must have been
       deliberate, obvious pressure on the eye, and the claims of Mann
       doing similar to provoke him completely unjustified.
       >
       > Can't remember the last time one of these ended up with the
       panel saying the player knew exactly what they were doing. What
       a scumbag.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Any comments on what they said about Mann?
       #Post#: 145599--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Etzebeth in trouble 
   DIR By: Yareet
       Date: December 5, 2025, 1:26 am
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       --- Quote from: Quinky link ---
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       > Any comments on what they said about Mann?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Sorry Quinks, appreciate you’re supporting your man but the most
       damning comment for me is that Eben admitted everything was
       dying down. He was in essence massively over-reacting to having
       his shirt grabbed.
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