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       Re: Quins v Glos-Hartpury
   DIR By: never sleep
       Date: November 10, 2025, 2:07 am
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       --- Quote from: QuincyJones link ---
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       > Irrelevant. It's the world's greatest investment opportunity
       and no amount of empty seats will change that.
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       I would say that if Quins continue to get crowds like the last 2
       games and they don't make a profit this year, then they are
       probably doing something very wrong.
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       Re: Quins v Glos-Hartpury
   DIR By: QuincyJones
       Date: November 10, 2025, 3:28 am
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       --- Quote from: never sleep link ---
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       > I would say that if Quins continue to get crowds like the last
       2 games and they don't make a profit this year, then they are
       probably doing something very wrong.
       >
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       Will the profit be invisible like the spectators were?
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       Re: Quins v Glos-Hartpury
   DIR By: never sleep
       Date: November 10, 2025, 4:01 am
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       --- Quote from: QuincyJones link ---
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       > Will the profit be invisible like the spectators were?
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       I'm not sure which game you were at. The stand seemed very full
       where I was.
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       Re: Quins v Glos-Hartpury
   DIR By: poorfour
       Date: November 10, 2025, 4:24 am
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       --- Quote from: QuincyJones link ---
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       > Will the profit be invisible like the spectators were?
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       The cameras in the Stoop are in the West and South Stands. The
       crowd for women's matches are also in the West stand. I am
       pretty sure we have explained this before.
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       Re: Quins v Glos-Hartpury
   DIR By: Rugbycat
       Date: November 10, 2025, 4:35 am
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       --- Quote from: poorfour link ---
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       > The cameras in the Stoop are in the West and South Stands. The
       crowd for women's matches are also in the West stand. I am
       pretty sure we have explained this before.
       >
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       I think you may have, i would reply to them using the words of
       Elvis Presley.
       "Truth is like the sun. You can shut it out for a time, but it
       ain't goin' away"
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       Re: Quins v Glos-Hartpury
   DIR By: Mayor West
       Date: November 10, 2025, 10:53 am
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       Another good game against the top team. Seemed like a decent
       turn out to me. They have more depth in the squad so the bench
       was better than Quins could cope with. I think not having our
       Irish star may be hurting the squad . Having said that there are
       some emerging players who are performing very well.
       Regarding the Salary Cap in the PWR, I was informed that
       it was only a guideline not a rule/law. That was a couple of
       years ago so it could be different now. It was during a
       discussion about how a particular team had attracted so many
       England internationals as well as other big names. It was with
       people who are very involved in Women’s rugby so I assume that
       they knew what they were talking about.
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       Re: Quins v Glos-Hartpury
   DIR By: poorfour
       Date: November 10, 2025, 11:25 am
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       If it was a couple of years ago then it could well have been
       true for the Premier 15s but the PWR has a salary cap regime
       that as far as I can see is similar to (and with similar
       enforcement to) the Prem.
       As to how G-H developed such a good team, I don't think there's
       any big secret. Hartpury College was a pioneer in offering a
       degree programme alongside access to top flight women's rugby,
       and has bolstered that with things like a player development
       programme sponsored by Vodafone. Gloucester took the tie-up with
       Hartpury seriously, and in Sean Lynn they had a head coach who
       inspired a lot of loyalty - so they basically established a very
       well integrated pathway that attracts a lot of high potential
       players.
       Loughborough obviously have something similar, and it's a bit
       puzzling that they haven't converted it into trophies but that
       may be because Loughborough has a broad focus on sport and not
       G-H's laser focus on rugby.
       Quins are trying to build something similar with Surrey Uni,
       with a team that is aiming for promotion to the top tier of BUCS
       for next season and a coaching squad that includes Lagi Tuima,
       Shaunagh Brown and the third Chisholm brother. It's a programme
       that Ms Poorfour Maj hopes to be part of next year (though she
       has G-H as a backup)
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       Re: Quins v Glos-Hartpury
   DIR By: Rugbycat
       Date: November 10, 2025, 11:46 am
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       --- Quote from: Mayor West link ---
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       > Another good game against the top team. Seemed like a decent
       turn out to me. They have more depth in the squad so the bench
       was better than Quins could cope with. I think not having our
       Irish star may be hurting the squad . Having said that there are
       some emerging players who are performing very well.
       > Regarding the Salary Cap in the PWR, I was informed that it
       was only a guideline not a rule/law. That was a couple of years
       ago so it could be different now. It was during a discussion
       about how a particular team had attracted so many England
       internationals as well as other big names. It was with people
       who are very involved in Women’s rugby so I assume that they
       knew what they were talking about.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Looks like they enforce it.
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       #Post#: 144603--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Quins v Glos-Hartpury
   DIR By: Mayor West
       Date: November 10, 2025, 12:17 pm
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       You’re probably right poorfour as it is now PWR. A good thing
       too if it is now being enforced. The team they were referring to
       wasn’t the two that you mentioned, it was “the usual suspects “
       creating something special who did win nearly everything during
       the Prem 15s.
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