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       #Post#: 143851--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Teams Up!
   DIR By: MaidstoneQuin
       Date: October 20, 2025, 9:13 am
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       --- Quote from: Quinky link ---
       >
       > How do you measure value from rugby? A win? A good,
       entertaining performance regardless of result? A nice day out?
       >
       > Most Quins fans seem (thankfully) not to be a "winning is
       everything" type. Sure, it's always better than losing, but at
       the expense of entertainment?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Winning isn't always everything but it does help, but
       regardless, if you were to lose you'd want it to be at least a
       gripping encounter with still positives building on things for
       the future games to come where there were signs things were
       clicking or we were competitive for the full game. Blend that in
       with the match day experience. As a one off its not too bad, but
       if you walk away from most home games as ST thinking we were
       just crap and no improvements on offer, you'd be disheartened to
       say the least, certainly if you shelled out for a ST with a new
       price banding.
       If it was directly offered for us to win most games 12-9, I'd
       pick that over losing  25-23 most weeks, as one approach gets
       you a possible day out at Twickenham, one does not.
       #Post#: 143852--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Teams Up!
   DIR By: SiB
       Date: October 20, 2025, 10:15 am
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       Think we also have to take into account those that post on
       forums, or go to away games etc etc, are a pretty small minority
       now
       There are plenty that go for “ The day/night out” and the rugby
       is not as important to them.
       And no doubt will still keep coming as long as there is beer on
       tap, fireworks and. DJ, and enjoy the social
       #Post#: 143853--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Teams Up!
   DIR By: toast
       Date: October 20, 2025, 10:39 am
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       Time for a Hard Nosed Lead Coach/Top Person?
       #Post#: 143854--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Teams Up!
   DIR By: FrostAndFire
       Date: October 20, 2025, 1:23 pm
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       --- Quote from: SiB link ---
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       > Think we also have to take into account those that post on
       forums, or go to away games etc etc, are a pretty small minority
       now
       > There are plenty that go for “ The day/night out” and the
       rugby is not as important to them.
       > And no doubt will still keep coming as long as there is beer
       on tap, fireworks and. DJ, and enjoy the social
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Perhaps we could keep the beer, fireworks and DJ and just stop
       playing the rugby. It would save money.
       #Post#: 143855--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Teams Up!
   DIR By: FrostAndFire
       Date: October 20, 2025, 1:26 pm
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       --- Quote from: mrpj1985 link ---
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       >
       > Launchbury (yes, I'm aware he's not been what he was, but I
       think he's better than Lewies at this stage)
       > Dombrandt
       > Chisholm
       > Waghorn
       > Beard
       >
       > Hard to see where the optimism can come from at the moment,
       there's no point sugarcoating it.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Launchbury shouldn't be anywhere near the starting team, nor
       really on the bench. He was a wonderful player, but he is far
       past it. He's done nothing in a Quins shirt.
       The others are a fair call, but Northmore is also an excellent
       player. He had a bad day, but there's very little between him
       and Beard, and I don't think Beard would have made any
       difference.
       Dombrandt we did miss, and we are all hoping Waghorn will prove
       to be the 12 we need, although he's still new. Chisholm,
       perhaps, but Kenningham and WEvans were the only two decent
       players in our team at the weekend, so where would we play him?
       #Post#: 143867--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Teams Up!
   DIR By: Rugbycat
       Date: October 21, 2025, 2:41 am
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       --- Quote from: toast link ---
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       > Time for a Hard Nosed Lead Coach/Top Person?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Time for a talented head coach/DOR, who moves us forward without
       throwing away our dna and history.
       We also need to retain the good players coming through from our
       academy, we seem to have not invested enough in our head
       coach/DOR and just employed people and hoped for the best, a
       decent coach will not be cheap and will need time.
       A Diamond type of coach is not I believe the answer, but we need
       to try to recruit a top level coach, if those sort of coaches
       would want to come, is another question.
       #Post#: 143872--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Teams Up!
   DIR By: Safri-quin
       Date: October 21, 2025, 3:04 am
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       --- Quote from: FrostAndFire link ---
       >
       > Perhaps we could keep the beer, fireworks and DJ and just stop
       playing the rugby. It would save money.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       there is a large percentage of the Friday night gate who
       probably wouldn't even notice/care if there was no rugby played.
       
       #Post#: 143880--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Teams Up!
   DIR By: Subterra
       Date: October 21, 2025, 3:21 am
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       --- Quote from: Safri-quin link ---
       >
       > there is a large percentage of the Friday night gate who
       probably wouldn't even notice/care if there was no rugby played.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       That includes you then .........
       #Post#: 143891--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Teams Up!
   DIR By: thatchapcarnell
       Date: October 21, 2025, 5:19 am
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       --- Quote from: Rugbycat link ---
       >
       > Time for a talented head coach/DOR, who moves us forward
       without throwing away our dna and history.
       >
       > We also need to retain the good players coming through from
       our academy, we seem to have not invested enough in our head
       coach/DOR and just employed people and hoped for the best, a
       decent coach will not be cheap and will need time.
       >
       > A Diamond type of coach is not I believe the answer, but we
       need to try to recruit a top level coach, if those sort of
       coaches would want to come, is another question.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I think we need to go a steal Chris Boyd from Munster.
       His style of play at both the Hurricanes and Saints is exactly
       the ultra-attacking Quins DNA model.
       If we are going to lose I'd rather it was 50-48 than 38-0.
       #Post#: 143892--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Teams Up!
   DIR By: Quinten Poulsen
       Date: October 21, 2025, 5:51 am
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       Our DNA needs to be genetically modified to the point where the
       team gives its all every single game. For all the ocassional
       talk of "the performance wasn't good enough" I just don't think
       the coaches and players hold themselves to high enough standards
       and I have very little confidence that will change.
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