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       #Post#: 142316--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Where will Quins end up?
   DIR By: MaidstoneQuin
       Date: September 19, 2025, 2:20 am
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       91.4% of Quins fans have no confidence of reaching the top 4.
       That's pretty sobering. I wonder what the figure would have been
       in 2022 for the same question
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       Re: Where will Quins end up?
   DIR By: Yareet
       Date: September 19, 2025, 3:47 am
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       --- Quote from: MaidstoneQuin link ---
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       > 91.4% of Quins fans have no c/onfidence of reaching the top 4.
       That's pretty sobering. I wonder what the figure would have been
       in 2022 for the same question
       >
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       Or in November 2020.
       As a reminder, Quins finished the (heavily disrupted) 2019/20
       season in 6th but 16 points off 4th. Your opening game of the
       season on 20/11/20 was a home 30-3 loss to Chiefs.
       You did alright that season
       #Post#: 142324--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Where will Quins end up?
   DIR By: A222Quin
       Date: September 19, 2025, 4:16 am
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       Don't think anyone but Bath is nailed on for the Top 4. I think
       I've been around too long to be too optimistic, but nor do I
       enjoy being that pessimistic so we'll just see what happens.
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       Re: Where will Quins end up?
   DIR By: MaidstoneQuin
       Date: September 19, 2025, 4:23 am
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       --- Quote from: A222Quin link ---
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       > Don't think anyone but Bath is nailed on for the Top 4. I
       think I've been around too long to be too optimistic, but nor do
       I enjoy being that pessimistic so we'll just see what happens.
       >
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       I think Sarries will be improved this year as Farrell will
       probably get that extra 1% out of those around him. Bristol have
       kept a good squad and LRZ will add to a very dangerous backline.
       Ibitoye and LRZ will be box office for them considering they
       have a decent pack. Saints I can't quite figure out but i think
       early season will struggle with the absentees. Gloucester are
       also difficult to call as they've lost a few players.
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       Re: Where will Quins end up?
   DIR By: Quinky
       Date: September 19, 2025, 5:13 am
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       --- Quote from: MaidstoneQuin link ---
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       > I think Sarries will be improved this year as Farrell will
       probably get that extra 1% out of those around him.
       >
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       Driving those standards...
       #Post#: 142335--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Where will Quins end up?
   DIR By: A222Quin
       Date: September 19, 2025, 6:06 am
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       --- Quote from: MaidstoneQuin link ---
       >
       > I think Sarries will be improved this year as Farrell will
       probably get that extra 1% out of those around him. Bristol have
       kept a good squad and LRZ will add to a very dangerous backline.
       Ibitoye and LRZ will be box office for them considering they
       have a decent pack. Saints I can't quite figure out but i think
       early season will struggle with the absentees. Gloucester are
       also difficult to call as they've lost a few players.
       >
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       Could well happen MQ but the converse to that is that Fazlet
       will have to recover his form of over 18 months ago swiftly to
       'drive standards'. He looked meh on the Lions Tour and was
       injured for half of last year and bang average for the other
       half when he actually played. They're a very good side, no
       doubt, but nowhere near as hard to beat as they were a while
       ago. Same with LRZ at Brizzle - could go really well but again
       he's barely played rugby for a couple of years. Bristol also
       have an almost Quinsesque ability to kick themselves in the
       knackers when things look really good. Often seem to only have
       Plan A too which is really effective when it works but it has
       been stopped quite a few times by top sides (Sale around
       Christmas last year is 1 quick example I can think of) and they
       don't seem to have adapted much.
       #Post#: 142336--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Where will Quins end up?
   DIR By: Brown Bottle
       Date: September 19, 2025, 6:18 am
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       Well, at least it looks like we won't have to worry about a
       play-off with Worcester.
       RFU to vote on suspension of relegation - Telegraph article in
       archive.ph
  HTML https://archive.ph/HWoA9
       #Post#: 142345--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Where will Quins end up?
   DIR By: Rugbycat
       Date: September 19, 2025, 12:12 pm
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       --- Quote from: Brown Bottle link ---
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       > Well, at least it looks like we won't have to worry about a
       play-off with Worcester.
       >
       > RFU to vote on suspension of relegation - Telegraph article in
       archive.ph
  HTML https://archive.ph/HWoA9
       >
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       They may as well move to a franchise league with 12 teams in a
       couple of years and 14 in five years.
       That may avoid the inevitable litigation that this will bring
       and provide a stable environment for everyone, lets the champ
       teams that want to be promoted put up or shut up, and the
       phoenix teams bid as well if they want.
       Could be tied into the PWR so teams must have women’s teams
       affiliated to them.
       Would any promoted team survive in the Prem with the present
       structure , or would it just be London Welsh the sequel, would
       also add to the resale value of the existing teams.
       There would probably be a stringent framework around income and
       expenditure as there is in the USA, that may impact several
       teams that have no chance of ever being a self financing entity,
       but that comes with being a franchise.
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       Re: Where will Quins end up?
   DIR By: Brown Bottle
       Date: September 19, 2025, 1:47 pm
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       I'm not quite sure who would go to court over no relegation
       while still allowing for promotion.
       #Post#: 142360--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Where will Quins end up?
   DIR By: Use it or lose it
       Date: September 19, 2025, 2:36 pm
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       I think we will finish 9th this season potentially 10th.
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