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       Re: South Africa's latest gimmick 
   DIR By: RodneyRegis
       Date: July 13, 2025, 1:16 pm
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       Bringing the game into disrepute. No surprise from SA, Aor from
       Quinky defending the indefensible.
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       Re: South Africa's latest gimmick 
   DIR By: Quinky
       Date: July 14, 2025, 5:26 am
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       --- Quote from: RodneyRegis link ---
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       > Bringing the game into disrepute. No surprise from SA, Aor
       from Quinky defending the indefensible.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       How is it "indefensible"? How is it "bringing the game into
       disrepute"? It's not like they kidnapped the ref and forced the
       opposition to wear leg weights.
       SA try a new tactic that nobody else thought about. Much the
       same as when Italy didn't form a maul at lineout time, and
       England fans were perplexed and angered in equal measure. The
       kick off was caught by a player ahead of the kicker, a penalty
       was given. That's what's in the laws. The ball didn't travel 10m
       - that happens. But because it's SA, there's uproar and
       caterwauling for sanctions.
       People need to get over themselves. Maybe if they supported more
       successful teams they might be less bitter.
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       Re: South Africa's latest gimmick 
   DIR By: FatQuin
       Date: July 14, 2025, 6:53 am
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       I have no problem with SA trying that out.  But they’d help
       themselves if Rassie didn’t make such a fuss when a ref doesn’t
       give them a decision.  That whole video show and tell thing was
       embarrassing and other fans haven’t forgotten.
       #Post#: 140292--------------------------------------------------
       Re: South Africa's latest gimmick 
   DIR By: RodneyRegis
       Date: July 14, 2025, 7:34 am
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       A deliberate knock on is a penalty. Now because SA have no
       morals we'll need to bring in all sorts of other sanctions for
       deliberate offences. Next it will be deliberate quarterback
       passes.
       #Post#: 140293--------------------------------------------------
       Re: South Africa's latest gimmick 
   DIR By: Fearless Fred
       Date: July 14, 2025, 8:15 am
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       For me the second trick play of lifting as if it's a lineout
       could be classed as obstruction. By lifting, they make it
       impossible for defenders to attempt to tackle the pass receiver,
       allowing them to get into a position to set up a rolling maul
       without the chance for the defence to counter that.
       #Post#: 140295--------------------------------------------------
       Re: South Africa's latest gimmick 
   DIR By: euroquin
       Date: July 14, 2025, 10:02 am
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       No need to be precious about it, this is covered by law 9.7.
       Unfair play
       9.7 A player must not:
       a. Intentionally infringe any law of the game. Sanction:
       Penalty.
       #Post#: 140299--------------------------------------------------
       Re: South Africa's latest gimmick 
   DIR By: FishQuin
       Date: July 14, 2025, 3:24 pm
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       --- Quote from: T-Bone link ---
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       > Why do SA supporters have to be so blinkered. Your coach has
       admitted they infringed to get a scrum. How's about you just let
       this one go
       >
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       I think it’s everyone doing the moaning that needs to let this
       one go. Wow. What a miserable bunch.
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       Re: South Africa's latest gimmick 
   DIR By: FishQuin
       Date: July 14, 2025, 3:26 pm
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       --- Quote from: FatQuin link ---
       >
       > I have no problem with SA trying that out.  But they’d help
       themselves if Rassie didn’t make such a fuss when a ref doesn’t
       give them a decision.  That whole video show and tell thing was
       embarrassing and other fans haven’t forgotten.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Most fans have forgotten. It really wasn’t a big deal.
       #Post#: 140303--------------------------------------------------
       Re: South Africa's latest gimmick 
   DIR By: Quinky
       Date: July 15, 2025, 12:53 am
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       --- Quote from: RodneyRegis link ---
       >
       > A deliberate knock on is a penalty. Now because SA have no
       morals we'll need to bring in all sorts of other sanctions for
       deliberate offences. Next it will be deliberate quarterback
       passes.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Forward passes are illegal. Quarterback style passes are legal,
       if they're not forward. I'm not sure how a quarterback pass can
       be anything other than deliberate?
       #Post#: 140304--------------------------------------------------
       Re: South Africa's latest gimmick 
   DIR By: Yareet
       Date: July 15, 2025, 1:12 am
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       --- Quote from: FishQuin link ---
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       > Most fans have forgotten. It really wasn’t a big deal.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       BBC pod this week on biggest lions controversies and [spoiler]
       Rassie’s video’s in
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