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       Re: Lions v Pumas
   DIR By: Camquin
       Date: June 20, 2025, 4:22 pm
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       England are going to struggle this summer.
       The Pumas will have their French based players available.
       The Lions need to add Argentina to the rotation.
       Perhaps as early as 2033.
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       Re: Lions v Pumas
   DIR By: FatQuin
       Date: June 20, 2025, 4:33 pm
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       Good game.  Isgro had a strong performance.  Not sure Marcus
       helped his cause much but not the worst Lion tonight.  A load of
       lumps across the back line doesn't beat top end pace for me and
       I thought Hansen looked lively when he eventually appeared.
       Good ref too.
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       Re: Lions v Pumas
   DIR By: Bod
       Date: June 20, 2025, 5:52 pm
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       Pumas were hungry
       Lions were lazy
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       Re: Lions v Pumas
   DIR By: Hellequin
       Date: June 20, 2025, 6:01 pm
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       Marcus looked like he struggled in the first half to get into
       the game and not the best defensively although somewhat
       exacerbated by VDM's defensive faults, some unfair criticism I
       think aimed at him from other fans about taking the ball across
       the line but not really any better options.
       Second half looked much better as he involved himself much more
       in attack and defence, several occasions where he was the first
       into the ruck to protect the ball.
       I think he either needs to be starting at 10 to move to 15 with
       replacements or on the bench to cover FH and FB for injury.
       If he hadn't been picked for the Lions I think it would have
       been a great opportunity to see him in a less rigid England
       structure this summer rather than Ford.
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       Re: Lions v Pumas
   DIR By: Rugbycat
       Date: June 20, 2025, 9:55 pm
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       Not sure that the concept of offloading on every carry is a
       great idea, loads of possession wasted with very low percentage
       offloads.
       Marcus was left high and dry by the poor defensive plan, which
       was woeful on the edges, and also vulnerable to the high ball.
       Still just the first game but raises some intriguing questions
       about some players and the style the coaches had the team play.
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       Re: Lions v Pumas
   DIR By: The Kid
       Date: June 21, 2025, 3:36 am
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       Don't think anyone in red can argue with the result. Los Pumas
       counterpunched really well and defended heroically. They're
       probably a better side than the Aussies.
       Lions looked like what they are; a scratch side of very good
       players who are mostly unfamiliar with the system they're
       playing. Only the scrum really held up as a unit. The lineout
       was a disaster. The multi phase attack and defence will take a
       bit more time.
       That said, they controlled territory and were profilgate in the
       22. Something like 15 entries for their 24 points which is crazy
       inefficient.
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       Re: Lions v Pumas
   DIR By: KiltedQuin
       Date: June 21, 2025, 3:37 am
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       --- Quote from: The Kid link ---
       >
       > Don't think anyone in red can argue with the result. Los Pumas
       counterpunched really well and defended heroically. They're
       probably a better side than the Aussies.
       >
       > Lions looked like what they are; a scratch side of very good
       players who are mostly unfamiliar with the system they're
       playing. Only the scrum really held up as a unit. The lineout
       was a disaster. The multi phase attack and defence will take a
       bit more time.
       >
       > That said, they controlled territory and were profilgate in
       the 22. Something like 15 entries for their 24 points which is
       crazy inefficient.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       And LCD butchered a try.
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       Re: Lions v Pumas
   DIR By: Quinky
       Date: June 21, 2025, 4:10 am
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       I was surprised that the Pumas scrum was so poor.
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       Re: Lions v Pumas
   DIR By: dinsdale
       Date: June 21, 2025, 4:10 am
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       The Lions are trying to play the same style as Ireland - trying
       to keep the ball alive with plenty of offloading - which I
       suppose isn't surprising but it didn't work very well.
       On the Irish commentary stream I was listening to, they referred
       to the Lions as 'Ireland' a couple of times [emoji3]
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       Re: Lions v Pumas
   DIR By: poorfour
       Date: June 21, 2025, 4:35 am
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       I thought the multiphase attack was working surprisingly well
       for a first hit out and every time Marcus got the ball they
       looked threatening, only for the finishers to balls it up.
       There's definitely huge potential in having two playmakers, but
       the Lions will need to get their defensive system working and
       hang onto the ball better.
       Genge had an immense game, not sure anyone else really moved the
       dial individually
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