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#Post#: 139691--------------------------------------------------
Re: Five Quins named in England XV to face France XV
DIR By: RodneyRegis
Date: June 24, 2025, 4:04 am
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> IFW taking the spot of 2 in form wingers in Radwan/OHC just to
play in a pointless fixture against the USA is peak Borethicko
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Whilst I concur with the sentiment, I can't give you an agree if
you think ohc should be anywhere near an international.
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Re: Five Quins named in England XV to face France XV
DIR By: MaidstoneQuin
Date: June 24, 2025, 4:12 am
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--- Quote from: RodneyRegis link ---
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> Whilst I concur with the sentiment, I can't give you an agree
if you think ohc should be anywhere near an international.
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I think he deserves another shot with the form . I'd probably
prefer Radwan of the two though. In defence of OHC, he can only
play what's infront of him, and he's done well this season. I
wouldn't have him ahead of Roebuck and Murley though who would
be my choices.
#Post#: 139693--------------------------------------------------
Re: Five Quins named in England XV to face France XV
DIR By: Rugbycat
Date: June 24, 2025, 4:13 am
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--- Quote from: MaidstoneQuin link ---
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> Jack Nowell was another one who seemed to always get picked
regardless of form. 14 tries in 46 games for a winger probably
isn't a great return in an England shirt. Of which 11 tries were
scored between 2013 and 2017. His last 13 games in an England
shirt he scored 1 try, with most people confused how he kept
being selected despite no form. I think for what its worth
though that IFW will far surpass his record
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Nowell was a Eddie Jones favourite, he wanted to turn him into a
13 at one stage, and then even said he could play 7, since our
present coach is a disciple of Jones, we are seeing the same
play people out of their club position and regardless of form
selections.
IFW is as you say much better, but should not be on the tour,
and winger is not really a weak point for England.
#Post#: 139697--------------------------------------------------
Re: Five Quins named in England XV to face France XV
DIR By: RodneyRegis
Date: June 24, 2025, 5:46 am
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--- Quote from: MaidstoneQuin link ---
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> I think he deserves another shot with the form . I'd probably
prefer Radwan of the two though. In defence of OHC, he can only
play what's infront of him, and he's done well this season. I
wouldn't have him ahead of Roebuck and Murley though who would
be my choices.
>
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What form, walking in some tries for a side who got to the
final? He's dreadful.
Roebuck is very dependable. But he's no sleightholme.
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Re: Five Quins named in England XV to face France XV
DIR By: Yareet
Date: June 24, 2025, 6:05 am
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--- Quote from: RodneyRegis link ---
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> What form, walking in some tries for a side who got to the
final? He's dreadful.
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> Roebuck is very dependable. But he's no sleightholme.
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Well no. Tom's 3" taller and a stone heavier - they're
completely different players used in different ways.
#Post#: 139700--------------------------------------------------
Re: Five Quins named in England XV to face France XV
DIR By: RodneyRegis
Date: June 24, 2025, 6:49 am
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--- Quote from: Yareet link ---
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> Well no. Tom's 3" taller and a stone heavier - they're
completely different players used in different ways.
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Yes. I'm a totally different player to Richie mccaw as well.
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Re: Five Quins named in England XV to face France XV
DIR By: RodneyRegis
Date: June 24, 2025, 6:50 am
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> The next Manu. Although fitness didn't seem to be a huge
concern for Manu being picked.
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Manu was a generational talent. IFW is...a bit slippery.
#Post#: 139702--------------------------------------------------
Re: Five Quins named in England XV to face France XV
DIR By: JammyGit
Date: June 24, 2025, 9:07 am
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> Well no. Tom's 3" taller and a stone heavier - they're
completely different players used in different ways.
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I think Rodders is trying to alter the future. The last time he
made a big deal about Roebuck not being all that he went on a
huge try scoring spree
#Post#: 139704--------------------------------------------------
Re: Five Quins named in England XV to face France XV
DIR By: Yareet
Date: June 24, 2025, 9:24 am
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--- Quote from: RodneyRegis link ---
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> Yes. I'm a totally different player to Richie mccaw as well.
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You may as well compare WEv and Tom Willis. I mean, they're both
back rows.
#Post#: 139705--------------------------------------------------
Re: Five Quins named in England XV to face France XV
DIR By: RodneyRegis
Date: June 24, 2025, 11:17 am
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--- Quote from: JammyGit link ---
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> I think Rodders is trying to alter the future. The last time
he made a big deal about Roebuck not being all that he went on a
huge try scoring spree
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Huge try scoring spree - not like you to embellish jammy.
Let's add Tom and ollie.
Sleights 5 in 523 = 105
Robes 9 in 1243 = 138
Pretty ropey data for ollie who was injured a lot. He has the 6
tries for England in 6 games though, so 'there' s that' :)
I like tom, he won't let anyone down. But I don't think he will
score a try a game either.
In fairness sleightholme and murley are probably too similar so
Tom of all trades is probably a good right wing choice if Steve
finally moves Freeman to 13 where he belongs.
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