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Re: Five Quins named in England XV to face France XV
DIR By: Yareet
Date: June 23, 2025, 1:03 pm
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--- Quote from: MaidstoneQuin link ---
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> IFW taking the spot of 2 in form wingers in Radwan/OHC just to
play in a pointless fixture against the USA is peak Borethicko
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Or he’s being kept fit for the Lions. His ban makes him
available for the first test.
He hardly needs the time off of a pre-season.
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Re: Five Quins named in England XV to face France XV
DIR By: FrostAndFire
Date: June 23, 2025, 1:50 pm
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What a slap in the face for every other winger in England: we'd
rather take a guy who isn't allowed to play than have you as a
back-up. F-W shouldn't have played in the last match at all. He
needs a proper pre-season and to get some top-level game time.
It doesn't matter how much raw talent he has. You need to build
up to test rugby.
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Re: Five Quins named in England XV to face France XV
DIR By: JammyGit
Date: June 23, 2025, 2:25 pm
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Pepper isn't even the first choice 7 at his club. Hrmpf.
Besides, Kenningham and Ted Hill should be the guys battling it
out for the 6 shirt at the moment. Isiekwe is a lucky boy.
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Re: Five Quins named in England XV to face France XV
DIR By: MaidstoneQuin
Date: June 24, 2025, 2:01 am
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--- Quote from: Yareet link ---
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> Or he’s being kept fit for the Lions. His ban makes him
available for the first test.
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> He hardly needs the time off of a pre-season.
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It hardly justifies his inclusion though, its an England squad
not a "helps the lions if needed" squad. He will miss 2 tests
which both are the actual "serious" ones. This blocks a chance
for someone like Radwan or OHC, who have been in great form.
What good is he as a tackle bag holder? He can still train with
England presumably without being named in the squad if its that
important.
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Re: Five Quins named in England XV to face France XV
DIR By: Banstead Quin
Date: June 24, 2025, 2:20 am
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It is bizarre as I'm not aware there is a restriction on touring
party size, so he could have taken a Radwan and still had IFW
there. What it does show is that regardless, he's in the England
team when available, form won't be a problem he needs to worry
about. Will he be the next Cohen or the next Cokanasiga???
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Re: Five Quins named in England XV to face France XV
DIR By: FatQuin
Date: June 24, 2025, 2:46 am
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Not taking Kenningham given his form (in a poor team) makes no
sense to me whatsoever. Especially given some of the flankers
Borthwick has picked. IFW going for the ride undermines the
England team in my opinion. I can’t believe that won’t have a
negative impact across the wider squad.
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Re: Five Quins named in England XV to face France XV
DIR By: MaidstoneQuin
Date: June 24, 2025, 2:51 am
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--- Quote from: Banstead Quin link ---
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> It is bizarre as I'm not aware there is a restriction on
touring party size, so he could have taken a Radwan and still
had IFW there. What it does show is that regardless, he's in the
England team when available, form won't be a problem he needs to
worry about. Will he be the next Cohen or the next Cokanasiga???
>
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Jack Nowell was another one who seemed to always get picked
regardless of form. 14 tries in 46 games for a winger probably
isn't a great return in an England shirt. Of which 11 tries were
scored between 2013 and 2017. His last 13 games in an England
shirt he scored 1 try, with most people confused how he kept
being selected despite no form. I think for what its worth
though that IFW will far surpass his record
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Re: Five Quins named in England XV to face France XV
DIR By: Quinky
Date: June 24, 2025, 3:54 am
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--- Quote from: Banstead Quin link ---
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> It is bizarre as I'm not aware there is a restriction on
touring party size, so he could have taken a Radwan and still
had IFW there. What it does show is that regardless, he's in the
England team when available, form won't be a problem he needs to
worry about. Will he be the next Cohen or the next Cokanasiga???
>
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The next Manu. Although fitness didn't seem to be a huge concern
for Manu being picked.
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Re: Five Quins named in England XV to face France XV
DIR By: Rugbycat
Date: June 24, 2025, 3:55 am
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England head coach Steve Borthwick says suspended wing Immanuel
Feyi-Waboso is too good a player to leave out of his summer
plans, despite being unable to play in the two-Test series
against Argentina.
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Re: Five Quins named in England XV to face France XV
DIR By: RodneyRegis
Date: June 24, 2025, 4:01 am
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HTML https://www.englandrugby.com/follow/news-media/england-rugby-squad-tour-argentina-usa-announced-2025
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> Kenningham dropped for Ben Curry. Not sure there was a hair
between him and Pepper on Saturday, but given Bath's superior
form, can't complain too much.
>
> F-W still going in spite of the ban, should mean it's between
Cadan and Will Muir for the 11 shirt.
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> Outside of that, very reliant on George Ford.
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Surely he won't pick muir AND Roebuck in the same side...
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