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Re: Five Quins named in England XV to face France XV
DIR By: FrostAndFire
Date: June 23, 2025, 3:07 am
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> Stat's don't lie.
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Lies, damned lies, and statistics.
They don't lie, of course, but they don't tell you very much of
interest, particularly when they are just stats like tries
scored.
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Re: Five Quins named in England XV to face France XV
DIR By: Rugbycat
Date: June 23, 2025, 3:58 am
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--- Quote from: FrostAndFire link ---
>
> Lies, damned lies, and statistics.
>
> They don't lie, of course, but they don't tell you very much
of interest, particularly when they are just stats like tries
scored.
>
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His other statistics are equally poor, but in an England team
where he often played with OF as his centre partner his complete
lack of attacking threat makes him an interesting choice.
But in 236 minutes in the 6N he made 2 line breaks, beat no
defenders, scored no points, made 9 succesful passes, 21 tackles
of which 12 were succesful , 10 carries.
Slade is just not very good since his horrible leg break in 2020
and should never be selected in my opinion.
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Re: Five Quins named in England XV to face France XV
DIR By: MaidstoneQuin
Date: June 23, 2025, 4:16 am
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We've had some duff 13s over the years. No team is ever going to
be worried seeing Slade there. Similar with Guy Porter when he
was knocking around. Marchant/Tuilagi were really the only 13's
of recent years that probably genuinely made the opposition
think or have any concern.
I hope Ojomah personally gets a go on the England tour
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Re: Five Quins named in England XV to face France XV
DIR By: Rugbycat
Date: June 23, 2025, 7:54 am
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--- Quote from: MaidstoneQuin link ---
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> We've had some duff 13s over the years. No team is ever going
to be worried seeing Slade there. Similar with Guy Porter when
he was knocking around. Marchant/Tuilagi were really the only
13's of recent years that probably genuinely made the opposition
think or have any concern.
>
> I hope Ojomah personally gets a go on the England tour
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Max Ojomah is more of a 12 than 13 but can play both, Masi-White
looks like a good 12 option for England as well, either of these
at 12 long term would allow Ollie Lawrence to play 13 when fit.
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Re: Five Quins named in England XV to face France XV
DIR By: RodneyRegis
Date: June 23, 2025, 8:26 am
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Or just move Freeman to 13 which would suit all his skills
better, and stick sleightholme and murley on the wings :)
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Re: Five Quins named in England XV to face France XV
DIR By: RodneyRegis
Date: June 23, 2025, 8:27 am
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Until marchant is back and I form of course. Hopefully hell flop
at sale and be back with us for 2026/27.
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Re: Five Quins named in England XV to face France XV
DIR By: mrpj1985
Date: June 23, 2025, 10:13 am
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Kenningham dropped for Ben Curry. Not sure there was a hair
between him and Pepper on Saturday, but given Bath's superior
form, can't complain too much.
F-W still going in spite of the ban, should mean it's between
Cadan and Will Muir for the 11 shirt.
Outside of that, very reliant on George Ford.
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Re: Five Quins named in England XV to face France XV
DIR By: poorfour
Date: June 23, 2025, 10:18 am
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Tough on Kenningham - I don't think he was given much of a
chance to show what he could do and I think is paying the price
for the team's loss of shape in the final 10 minutes.
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Re: Five Quins named in England XV to face France XV
DIR By: MaidstoneQuin
Date: June 23, 2025, 10:50 am
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IFW taking the spot of 2 in form wingers in Radwan/OHC just to
play in a pointless fixture against the USA is peak Borethicko
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Re: Five Quins named in England XV to face France XV
DIR By: Banstead Quin
Date: June 23, 2025, 11:54 am
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Absolutely nuts. Let IFW go back to Chiefs and get pre season
under his belt. He'll be in better shape for the AIs rather than
scoring 6 tries in an uncapped match against USA where he could
pick up a needless injury. All options on the table.
Harsh on Kenners following a great season personally in an
average team. But as said above, Pepper and B Curry also had
standout seasons.
Let's hope the boys get some game time.
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