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       #Post#: 139177--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Pat Lam blames Bath ticket prices
   DIR By: Yareet
       Date: June 7, 2025, 3:23 am
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       --- Quote from: Rugbycat link ---
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       > True the costs would need to be repaid, also the 10 team
       league with two games across the road mean we only play seven
       games at the Stoop.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       7 Prem games. Looks like there were 14 men’s games and 8 women’s
       at the stoop games this season
       #Post#: 139178--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Pat Lam blames Bath ticket prices
   DIR By: Rugbycat
       Date: June 7, 2025, 4:11 am
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       --- Quote from: Yareet link ---
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       > 7 Prem games. Looks like there were 14 men’s games and 8
       women’s at the stoop games this season
       >
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       The prem games are the only ones that are almost certain to be
       sell outs, but yes there are womens games and prem cup games
       and pre-season matches, but your revenue stream is at the moment
       the prem games, womens attendances should increase with the
       world cup.
       My point is that you need a 14 team prem for gate income.
       #Post#: 139181--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Pat Lam blames Bath ticket prices
   DIR By: Yareet
       Date: June 7, 2025, 7:24 am
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       --- Quote from: Rugbycat link ---
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       > The prem games are the only ones that are almost certain to be
       sell outs, but yes there are womens games and prem cup games
       and pre-season matches, but your revenue stream is at the moment
       the prem games, womens attendances should increase with the
       world cup.
       > My point is that you need a 14 team prem for gate income.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Quins don’t sell out European games?
       #Post#: 139184--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Pat Lam blames Bath ticket prices
   DIR By: Quinten Poulsen
       Date: June 7, 2025, 8:59 am
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       Not when we play teams like Black Sheep RFC from Andorra.
       #Post#: 139186--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Pat Lam blames Bath ticket prices
   DIR By: Subterra
       Date: June 7, 2025, 9:15 am
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       --- Quote from: JammyGit link ---
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       > Real tough on Bristol, not being able to afford a second half
       ticket for the team
       >
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       He would not even be whinging if Brizz had won, still he only
       had to endure 14 miles back to the tip that is Bristol
       #Post#: 139197--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Pat Lam blames Bath ticket prices
   DIR By: Rocker
       Date: June 7, 2025, 3:46 pm
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       --- Quote from: Rugbycat link ---
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       > Leaving behind 62 years of history is a big move, also where
       would we go, to expand the ground would cost upwards of £50
       million, what would a new ground cost.
       >
       > I would not want to leave the stoop.
       >
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       Nor me, but realistically we already need to expand capacity.
       Think how much more income there would be if we had 25,000+ like
       Tiggers. It's not just about ticket sales, it's everything, food
       and beverage, shop sales, exposure...
       If we're blocked by the council it's surely only a matter of
       time till we move?
       #Post#: 139200--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Pat Lam blames Bath ticket prices
   DIR By: Fearless Fred
       Date: June 8, 2025, 12:18 am
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       I don't think the council are a problem. If you think back to
       the days of David Hughes being the CEO, we were already planning
       on an expansion of the Stoop into the 20k+ capacity in concert
       with the redevelopment of the college and other works. That had
       the approval of the council in principle (I believe part of it
       was allowing the council to get rid of part of the works behind
       the South Stand that they no longer used/wanted). The funding
       was being worked on.
       With Hughes departure, and more imporantly a little thing called
       Covid, the plans were shelved, but I think it would be fairly
       easy to resurrect them if funding is found. It's the funding
       that's the real issue at the moment. We need to get rid of the
       Covid loans first before we can arrange the capital financing
       for the redevelopment.
       #Post#: 139206--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Pat Lam blames Bath ticket prices
   DIR By: Rugbycat
       Date: June 8, 2025, 4:06 am
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       --- Quote from: Fearless Fred link ---
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       > I don't think the council are a problem. If you think back to
       the days of David Hughes being the CEO, we were already planning
       on an expansion of the Stoop into the 20k+ capacity in concert
       with the redevelopment of the college and other works. That had
       the approval of the council in principle (I believe part of it
       was allowing the council to get rid of part of the works behind
       the South Stand that they no longer used/wanted). The funding
       was being worked on.
       >
       > With Hughes departure, and more imporantly a little thing
       called Covid, the plans were shelved, but I think it would be
       fairly easy to resurrect them if funding is found. It's the
       funding that's the real issue at the moment. We need to get rid
       of the Covid loans first before we can arrange the capital
       financing for the redevelopment.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Gareth Roberts, Leader of Richmond Council, has openly said that
       expansion of the Stoop is not in the best interests of the local
       community
       #Post#: 139210--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Pat Lam blames Bath ticket prices
   DIR By: KentQuin
       Date: June 8, 2025, 11:06 am
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       If/when the do redevelop, I suspect it'll need to be
       multi-purpose in order for investors to see enough ROI. Spurs,
       La Defense Arena etc are the new model. You can't have a venue
       being used once every fortnight and rake in enough £££.
       #Post#: 139214--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Pat Lam blames Bath ticket prices
   DIR By: DOK
       Date: June 8, 2025, 2:56 pm
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       There was talk of taking over the council tip lorry space behind
       the Stoop. I don't know how big a venue you could make that
       into!
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