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       #Post#: 138968--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Team's Up
   DIR By: poorfour
       Date: May 31, 2025, 10:43 am
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       --- Quote from: Hellequin link ---
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       > Was Ibitoye another Gustard release? I know Wing isn't exactly
       an area of weakness for Quins but seems like a loss given what
       he has shown since?
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       From what I can recall, Ibitoye’s attitude in his last couple of
       years with Quins was awful. He was let go and ended up at one
       point playing semi-pro in Israel. Fair play to Lam for picking
       him up and turning him around.
       Meanwhile, Mr Pearce just about reaches the right decision.
       “He’s nudged very slightly” - it’s a straight arm shove on the
       back of his shoulder!
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       Re: Team's Up
   DIR By: KentQuin
       Date: May 31, 2025, 10:43 am
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       > There simply has to be more to it than that - I can't imagine
       the entire club wasn't aware that he was a future superstar in
       waiting
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       I'm sure you're right. The club will have a wage structure, and
       if they gave Jibulu X amount then every other promising
       youngster would want the same. Word soon gets around.
       But I wonder if we're paying Turner more than Jibulu wanted?
       I assume it's not a falling out with the coaches, otherwise he
       wouldn't be playing.
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       Re: Team's Up
   DIR By: FatQuin
       Date: May 31, 2025, 10:43 am
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       --- Quote from: Quinky link ---
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       > I see Pearce is back in Bristol mode.
       >
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       He decided in our favour…
       #Post#: 138971--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Team's Up
   DIR By: Quinky
       Date: May 31, 2025, 10:45 am
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       --- Quote from: FatQuin link ---
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       > He decided in our favour…
       >
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       And?
       #Post#: 138972--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Team's Up
   DIR By: FatQuin
       Date: May 31, 2025, 10:45 am
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       One thing I will say is that the three year plan to sort out our
       defence at the expense of attack is paying off.
       #Post#: 138973--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Team's Up
   DIR By: KentQuin
       Date: May 31, 2025, 10:45 am
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       --- Quote from: JammyGit link ---
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       > This is pretty revisionist, he was an absolute liability at
       the time and wasn't getting any better. He was always an
       outrageously talented runner but his error count was absurd, he
       was dreadful in the air, and he had no clue in defence. It took
       him ending up playing for an Israeli club for him to knuckle
       down and turn it around.
       >
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       Agree. An electric runner and whilst his fundamentals have
       improved, they're still not up to scratch. I'd say Radwan would
       be closer to an England cap than Ibitoye if Borthers wants that
       type of x-factor running threat.
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       Re: Team's Up
   DIR By: FatQuin
       Date: May 31, 2025, 10:46 am
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       --- Quote from: Quinky link ---
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       > And?
       >
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       So he’s not favouring Bristol at the time you posted.
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       Re: Team's Up
   DIR By: JammyGit
       Date: May 31, 2025, 10:48 am
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       "still waiting to see if there's advantage"
       A bad pass goes to a Quins player who falls flat on his face...
       Forcing us to kick it away for advantage over
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       Re: Team's Up
   DIR By: poorfour
       Date: May 31, 2025, 10:48 am
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       So… knock on advantage in the tackle, a couple of phases later
       Pearce calls “advantage now” (which would normally mean a
       penalty advantage), Bristol get a turnover a few phases further
       on and where has the advantage gone?
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       Re: Team's Up
   DIR By: Hellequin
       Date: May 31, 2025, 10:49 am
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       I agree definitely a revision, at the time definitely wasn't
       that fussed and has been a great return since having to head to
       Israel to play competitively.
       But if we had been more attack focused head coach at that time
       would we have let him go?
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