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#Post#: 138655--------------------------------------------------
Re: George Turner
DIR By: Quinten Poulsen
Date: May 23, 2025, 10:14 am
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--- Quote from: JammyGit link ---
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> Theo Dan is a Saracens academy product. Our version of him
would be Jibulu, sadly. Or Riley or Musk :-)
>
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Out of interest, Riley, Dan and Barbeary were all in the same
year and competing hookers back in the day.
If the coaches think Jerold Gorleku might be one of those
players who can come through quickly to get first team
experience then Turner could be the perfect age/player profile
to help with his development and keep things super competitive.
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Re: George Turner
DIR By: KentQuin
Date: May 23, 2025, 10:17 am
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--- Quote from: JammyGit link ---
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> We'll have a few more when the 24-25 cohort ages, because
that's what time does and the squad overall skews younger. But
you're right, the core of our team is in the sweet spot you
asked for - so what's the problem? The original complaint was
that we seem to be missing that core, but we're obviously not.
>
> Both Petti and Treadwell are also in the 26-31 range, fwiw.
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> At a glance, the age profile of our squad is nearly identical
to that of Bath, the best side in the Premiership by a distance.
>
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Petti and Treadwell are direct replacements for Herbst and Lamb
and don't really move the needle age-wise.
The problem is that we've spent the last 2 years signing or
re-signing players who are on their way or over the hill and who
have contributed little on the pitch come matchday. Launchbury,
Halfpenny, Wyn Jones, Lewies etc.
Harry Williams and George Turner might do better, they might
not. But these are again signings which suggest a sticking
plaster approach, rather than a long-term plan to build a squad
which is will stay together and really challenge.
My gripe is that I'd much rather see us bring in players who are
going to enhance the core, rather than temporary fixes.
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Re: George Turner
DIR By: RodneyRegis
Date: May 23, 2025, 10:32 am
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--- Quote from: MaidstoneQuin link ---
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> Maybe we can expect Nathan Hughes announced shortly to fill
Trenholms void [emoji6]
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I hope he asks nicely first.
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Re: George Turner
DIR By: RodneyRegis
Date: May 23, 2025, 10:35 am
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--- Quote from: SiB link ---
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> He’s 32 hardly an old man
> Was a very good player, and his style of play should suit
Quins
> Think I’ll save judgement until he pulls on the quarters,
>
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Huh? Are you suggesting that 32 is not old for a professional
rugby player?
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Re: George Turner
DIR By: RodneyRegis
Date: May 23, 2025, 10:36 am
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--- Quote from: poorfour link ---
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> I know, right? It was such a disaster with Bomb that I can't
see why the club would ever do it again.
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Ah, I thought we signed him because he was a good player.
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Re: George Turner
DIR By: RodneyRegis
Date: May 23, 2025, 10:40 am
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--- Quote from: Neil Quinnock link ---
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> A quick look at the age of other Prem club recruits (excluding
Academy) for next year:-
>
> BATH -Dan Frost (28) Bernard Van Der Linde (24) Santiago
Carreras (27) Henry Arundell (22) - Average Age 25.25
>
> BRISTOL - Max Pepper (24) Tom Jordan (26) - Average Age 25
>
> EXETER- Joseph Dweba (29) Julian Heaven (24) Andrea Zambonin
(24) Tom Hooper (24) Charlie Chapman (26) Stephen Varney (24)
Len Ikitau (26) - Average Age 25.28
>
> GlOS - Jack Innard (30) Hugh Bockenham (23) James Venter (28)
Josh Basham (26) Jack Mann (25) Will Trenholm (23) Mike Austin
(24) Ross Byrne (30) Will Joseph (22) Ben Loader (26) - Average
Age 25.7
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> QUINS - Harry Williams (33) George Turner (32) Guido Petti
(30) Kieran Treadwell (29) Stu Townsend (29) - Average Age 30.6
!!
>
> TIGERS - Tarek Haffar (23) Jamie Blamire (27) Lewis Chessum
(22) Joaquin Moro (22) - Average Age 23.5
>
> NEWCASTLE - Ethan Grayson (23)
>
> SAINTS - Danilo Fischetti (27) Cleopas Kundiona (26) Calum
Chick (28) Anthony Bellau (29) - Average Age 27.5
>
> SALE - Jacques Vermeulen (29) Marius Lowe (29) Nathan Jibulu
(22) Connor Doherty (24) - Average Age 26
>
> SARACENS - Tietie Tuimauga (31) Marcus Street (26) Vilikesa
Nairau (23) Max Malins (28) - Average Age 27
>
> We are the only team with an average age above 30 and the next
highest is Saints at 27.5
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Superb bit of statting there.
Pretty stark stuff.
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Re: George Turner
DIR By: Rugbycat
Date: May 23, 2025, 10:41 am
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--- Quote from: JammyGit link ---
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> Japan isn't too soft, they play fast rugby in that league and
train in the heat on hard grounds.
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Less Physical Competition
Japanese play rugby with much less intensity than how it is
played in the international leagues. The less intense pace of
the play makes it more of a mind game and less of brute
strength. Though injuries are unavoidable in rugby, they are not
as frequent compared to European leagues.
Some players are worried that this way of playing might impact
their performance if they return to the big leagues.
From the rugby paper.
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Re: George Turner
DIR By: RodneyRegis
Date: May 23, 2025, 10:48 am
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Yeah, it's easy rugby. We all know that. Sure it's fast paced at
times but it's nowhere near as attritional. That's why players
go there instead of France for their payday.
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Re: George Turner
DIR By: poorfour
Date: May 23, 2025, 12:13 pm
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--- Quote from: KentQuin link ---
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> But these are again signings which suggest a sticking plaster
approach, rather than a long-term plan to build a squad which is
will stay together and really challenge.
>
> My gripe is that I'd much rather see us bring in players who
are going to enhance the core, rather than temporary fixes.
>
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An alternative way of looking at it is that the club is
confident in being able to bring through the current academy
players to become fixtures of the matchday XXIII, but believes
they need a season or two to be ready to step up fully.
In that case, recruiting players who have a couple of good
years' play left in them and can share their experience with the
players coming through, but who won't expect to be starters for
years to come is a sensible move.
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Re: George Turner
DIR By: Quinky
Date: May 23, 2025, 12:15 pm
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--- Quote from: RodneyRegis link ---
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> I hope he asks nicely first.
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Or at least brings flowers, chocolates and a bottle of wine...
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