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       Six Quins Named in England Training Squad
   DIR By: WellingQuin
       Date: May 20, 2025, 5:18 am
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       England Men’s head coach Steve Borthwick has named a 33-player
       squad for a two-day training camp at the Honda England Rugby
       Performance Centre at Pennyhill Park, with 6 Harlequins players
       involved in the camp.
       Fin Baxter, Alex Dombrandt and Cadan Murley have all been
       selected, alongside uncapped Jack Kenningham, Oscar Beard and
       Luke Northmore, whilst Chander Cunningham-South will link up
       with the squad to continue his injury rehabilitation.
       The squad does not include players selected for The British &
       Irish Lions, nor players from Northampton Saints and Bath Rugby,
       who are preparing for European fixtures this weekend.
       The camp forms part of the preparations for the upcoming match
       between an England XV and a France XV at Allianz Stadium,
       Twickenham on Saturday 21 June (kick-off 3.15pm).
       England’s 33-player training squad:
       Forwards:
       Joe Batley (Bristol Bears)
       Fin Baxter (Harlequins)
       Richard Capstick (Exeter Chiefs)
       Arthur Clark (Gloucester Rugby)
       Ben Curry (Sale Sharks)
       Theo Dan (Saracens)
       Alex Dombrandt (Harlequins)
       Afolabi Fasogbon (Gloucester Rugby)
       Jamie George (Saracens)
       Joe Heyes (Leicester Tigers)
       Emeka Ilione (Leicester Tigers)
       Nick Isiekwe (Saracens)
       Jack Kenningham (Harlequins)
       Gabriel Oghre (Bristol Bears)
       Asher Opoku-Fordjour (Sale Shark)
       Bevan Rodd (Sale Sharks)
       Tom Willis (Saracens)
       Backs:
       Charlie Atkinson (Gloucester Rugby)
       Seb Atkinson (Gloucester Rugby)
       Oscar Beard (Harlequins)
       Joe Carpenter (Sale Sharks)
       Tobias Elliott (Saracens)
       Immanuel Feyi-Waboso (Exeter Chiefs)
       George Ford (Sale Sharks)
       Rekeiti Ma'asi-White (Sale Sharks)
       Cadan Murley (Harlequins)
       Luke Northmore (Harlequins)
       Raffi Quirke (Sale Sharks)
       Harry Randall (Bristol Bears)
       Tom Roebuck (Sale Sharks)
       Henry Slade (Exeter Chiefs)
       Freddie Steward (Leicester Tigers)
       Jack van Poortvliet (Leicester Tigers)
       Rehabilitation: Chandler Cunningham-South (Harlequins) and
       George Martin (Leicester Tigers)
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       Re: Six Quins Named in England Training Squad
   DIR By: Banstead Quin
       Date: May 20, 2025, 5:28 am
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       Slade, sigh! Ford only so he's match fit if the Lions need him.
       Isiekwe & Heyes when you could have looked at younger players in
       their positions. Shame for Porter and wEV and a possibility for
       Waghorn to get used to the squad. Porter I don't understand but,
       let's be blunt, JvP is Borthwick's baby so rather than 5 minute
       cameos and the risk of injury, better he has the summer off.
       #Post#: 138472--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Six Quins Named in England Training Squad
   DIR By: TomBuckQuin
       Date: May 20, 2025, 5:36 am
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       Are Isiekwe and Heyes old? If I had to guess I'd say they're
       both mid to late twenties?
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       Re: Six Quins Named in England Training Squad
   DIR By: Yareet
       Date: May 20, 2025, 5:47 am
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       --- Quote from: TomBuckQuin link ---
       >
       > Are Isiekwe and Heyes old? If I had to guess I'd say they're
       both mid to late twenties?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       27 and 26 respectively. Not exactly ancient
       Not exactly ignoring youth at 3 with Alo and Asher in there.
       As a comparison with Isiekwe, Batley is 28 whilst Willis is 26.
       Kenningham must be on borrowed time at 25
       #Post#: 138487--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Six Quins Named in England Training Squad
   DIR By: Banstead Quin
       Date: May 20, 2025, 8:19 am
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       The point being this is a tour used to look at the next players
       in those positions and I don't see Isiekwe being that and Heyes
       only there because Borethick and Wiggie have worked with him
       before. Neither are going to gain 50 more caps in the future.
       Why not look at someone else who might?
       #Post#: 138488--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Six Quins Named in England Training Squad
   DIR By: TomBuckQuin
       Date: May 20, 2025, 8:27 am
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       Strange take. Not meaning to get into too much whatifery but...
       Let's say Heyes starts the tour at 3 and Isiekwe packs down at 5
       and our scrum and lineout tick over like a well-oiled machine
       against the Pumas pack... Suddenly, you're potentially looking
       at a situation where you have viable challengers to shirts that
       don't currently have a great deal of strength in depth (or in
       the case of the 3 shirt, any at all).
       Yes, some youngsters will get to run around too - but this isn't
       an U20s tour. Personally, I'd absolutely love one or both of
       Heyes/Isiekwe to come into their own and stake a claim on this
       tour. That's exactly what England need to be successful.
       #Post#: 138489--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Six Quins Named in England Training Squad
   DIR By: Brown Bottle
       Date: May 20, 2025, 8:37 am
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       --- Quote from: Banstead Quin link ---
       >
       > The point being this is a tour used to look at the next
       players in those positions ...
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Where did you get that from?
       #Post#: 138494--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Six Quins Named in England Training Squad
   DIR By: Fursty
       Date: May 20, 2025, 9:05 am
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       Shame Will Evans has been over-looked again but pleased for
       Kenningham.
       Can’t see the logic in taking Iseikwe to the training camp -
       England already know exactly what he offers and he’s not
       offering any genuine international squad depth in the future.
       #Post#: 138497--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Six Quins Named in England Training Squad
   DIR By: JammyGit
       Date: May 20, 2025, 9:29 am
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       I don't particularly rate Heyes but he's the next cab off the
       rank and was that option in the 6N, so it makes perfect sense
       for him to be there.
       Isiekwe I get, he's not really done much in recent seasons.
       Ribbans is a real loss there.
       #Post#: 138498--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Six Quins Named in England Training Squad
   DIR By: poorfour
       Date: May 20, 2025, 10:00 am
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       If you stop thinking of this as a development tour, then that
       might change how you view the selections.
       The RWC draw is after the AIs and before the 6N and England are
       currently the last team in the top tier of seeds, just behind
       Argentina. Their match schedule running up to the draw is:
       ARG (A)
       ARG (A)
       USA (A)
       AUS (H)
       FIJ (H)
       NZ (H)
       ARG (H)
       England need to win as many of those matches as possible. Arg,
       Aus and Fiji are all around the tier 1 / tier 2 cutoff along
       with England and all will be going flat out to take ranking
       points off each other.
       In that context, it absolutely makes sense to include a player
       like Heyes rather than look at younger players. You can also
       understand the inclusion of Isiekwe, because although he's not
       shone at International level, it would be very high risk to hope
       that Clark and Batley can both step up.
       I'd expect to see a skew to experience in the Argentina matches,
       with more opportunity for youngsters in the USA game.
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