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       #Post#: 137231--------------------------------------------------
       This isn’t the coaching, this playing group are done
   DIR By: championes
       Date: April 26, 2025, 1:48 pm
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       Facebook and here full of ranting about the coaches.
       Sure. But this playing group are the ones who can’t play rugby.
       Marcus, our absolute family hero, needs to take time away from
       rugby - he’s got nothing left, he may be harming the team. No
       one know what he’s trying to do - probably including him.
       Dombrandt - mostly harmless
       Endless other players showing nothing.
       As per previous post I worry there’s some self righteous “player
       power” crap going on here that’s destroying the club
       We need someone to come in and take control.
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       Re: This isn’t the coaching, this playing group are done
   DIR By: Quinten Poulsen
       Date: April 26, 2025, 1:52 pm
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       I worry it's the opposite. The players don't look happy playing.
       #Post#: 137233--------------------------------------------------
       Re: This isn’t the coaching, this playing group are done
   DIR By: RodneyRegis
       Date: April 26, 2025, 1:59 pm
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       Yeah, same could have been said December 2021.
       #Post#: 137236--------------------------------------------------
       Re: This isn’t the coaching, this playing group are done
   DIR By: J Scott
       Date: April 26, 2025, 2:53 pm
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       I actually would start Benson and Murray next next. I think
       Benson will be less flashy but more consistent in the long run
       and Gjatelma just needs to drop into the memory banks he’s
       useless.
       #Post#: 137242--------------------------------------------------
       Re: This isn’t the coaching, this playing group are done
   DIR By: championes
       Date: April 26, 2025, 4:16 pm
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       --- Quote from: RodneyRegis link ---
       >
       > Yeah, same could have been said December 2021.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I actually don’t agree. At that point the playing group were
       coherent and a solid group of players - don’t get that sense at
       all here.
       Even if they were - that was a one off.
       We are in serious trouble and my guess is there are elements in
       the dressing room making it worse.
       #Post#: 137243--------------------------------------------------
       Re: This isn’t the coaching, this playing group are done
   DIR By: Thegp
       Date: April 26, 2025, 4:47 pm
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       Dombrandt is a shadow of the player he was a while back. So is
       Smith
       If so many good players are playing badly then it can only be
       the coaching
       #Post#: 137244--------------------------------------------------
       Re: This isn’t the coaching, this playing group are done
   DIR By: MaidstoneQuin
       Date: April 26, 2025, 4:52 pm
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       I think a lot of the squad are still great players, but are
       massively overhyped and I think some fans seem to think we have
       an above average quality of squad compared to others in the
       league, which really isn’t true.
       England have ruined Marcus, Dombrandt is a flat track bully and
       a poor leader who always goes missing when it’s difficult, Green
       isn’t the player he was post injury. Northmore and Beard are
       good players but I don’t think either would be snapped up and
       chucked in to start for the majority of the teams above us
       currently.
       Second row is fairly poor but hopefully addressed for next
       season, same can’t be said for the front row. Baxter has taken a
       slight step back from the start of the season but I think his
       confidence has been knocked.
       There is a fair few players who seem to start a fair few games
       but I’d not lose much sleep over if left, but only if it wasn’t
       play a player who could turn out for a vets team.
       David, Walker, Launchbury, Titi, Kerrod, Els etc are all players
       who really won’t get a better gig if they left us (probably).
       I think Evans and Bomb may be part of the problem, let’s not
       forget they were part of the coaching set up under previous poor
       performances. Maybe things have become too much of a mates club
       so to speak, but clearly the playing squad have been poorly
       coached and aren’t enjoying rugby. Combine that with
       discontent/potential cliques it’s a recipe for failure
       #Post#: 137245--------------------------------------------------
       Re: This isn’t the coaching, this playing group are done
   DIR By: FBQuin
       Date: April 26, 2025, 5:10 pm
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       Maidstone Quin said " I think Evans and Bomb may be part of the
       problem, let’s not forget they were part of the coaching set up
       under previous poor performances. Maybe things have become too
       much of a mates club so to speak, but clearly the playing squad
       have been poorly coached and aren’t enjoying rugby. Combine that
       with discontent/potential cliques it’s a recipe for failure"
       Well said as it is something I think people are afraid to say on
       here. Granted that they were great players and have  moved on
       with thier coaching, but has it become a "little too cushy? "
       Would love to see Wilson go ASAP as he has taken us backwards.
       He said at state of Nation this was "year 2 of a 3 year plan".
       Laurie  do a U turn and get shot of him now. I have taken out a
       season ticket for Harlequins Ladies next season. Much more
       enjoyable time and not having to spend a fortune on watching
       some of the dross the men have served up this year.  COYQ
       #Post#: 137247--------------------------------------------------
       Re: This isn’t the coaching, this playing group are done
   DIR By: Quinky
       Date: April 26, 2025, 6:43 pm
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       --- Quote from: FBQuin link ---
       >
       > Maidstone Quin said " I think Evans and Bomb may be part of
       the problem, let’s not forget they were part of the coaching set
       up under previous poor performances. Maybe things have become
       too much of a mates club so to speak, but clearly the playing
       squad have been poorly coached and aren’t enjoying rugby.
       Combine that with discontent/potential cliques it’s a recipe for
       failure"
       > Well said as it is something I think people are afraid to say
       on here. Granted that they were great players and have  moved on
       with thier coaching, but has it become a "little too cushy? "
       Would love to see Wilson go ASAP as he has taken us backwards.
       He said at state of Nation this was "year 2 of a 3 year plan".
       Laurie  do a U turn and get shot of him now. I have taken out a
       season ticket for Harlequins Ladies next season. Much more
       enjoyable time and not having to spend a fortune on watching
       some of the dross the men have served up this year.  COYQ
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Weren't Evans and Bomb a part of the coaching when we won the
       Premiership?
       #Post#: 137248--------------------------------------------------
       Re: This isn’t the coaching, this playing group are done
   DIR By: JammyGit
       Date: April 26, 2025, 6:47 pm
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       Dombrandt has repeatedly stood up to be counted this season when
       the team has been failing. Calling him a flat track bully is
       absurd. He's being asked to run through brick walls while also
       trying to create things in a very negative game plan and has not
       been shirking the effort at all.
       Today he made more line breaks than any of his team mates, 2nd
       most carries in the pack, made more metres than any other
       forward in the match, took more lineout ball than any other
       Quin, won a crucial turnover on our own line, and didn't miss a
       tackle unlike practically the entire team. And that's when he
       doesn't have a particularly good game by his standards.
       Beard is a fantastic player who is performing heroics in defence
       pretty much every match at the moment, with the occasional
       attacking highlight. He would start for most teams.
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