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Re: Teams Up!
DIR By: KentQuin
Date: February 28, 2025, 4:58 pm
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--- Quote from: JammyGit link ---
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> In matches that matter, Riley repeatedly shows he doesn't have
the game to be taking the starting shirt. Walker always, always,
always puts in a huge physical shift and his discipline and
lineout is no worse than Riley's while his defensive work and
his hard carrying is a different league.
>
> I don't understand why Walker is a lightning rod for criticism
and Riley's failings are forgotten 30 seconds after any given
match ends.
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> Losing Jibulu is going to kill us because Riley is not
starting quality.
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Walker is as brave as a lion and in a team that lacks steel and
big carriers, you can understand why he's first choice. That
said, his decision making is suspect at times. He gives away a
lot of daft penalties, which is where, I suspect, most of the
frustration comes from. He's throwing is also inconsistent. He's
looked upon as an experienced first teamer, England fringe
player, and is judged accordingly.
I think fans are kinder on Riley as he's come through the
academy and he isn't yet the finished article. He's got great
hands at the line and is dynamic in the loose, albeit a bit more
footwork compared to Walker's grunt. You could argue a bit of a
highlights player, but he shows flashes of real quality.
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Re: Teams Up!
DIR By: JammyGit
Date: February 28, 2025, 5:21 pm
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--- Quote from: KentQuin link ---
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> Walker is as brave as a lion and in a team that lacks steel
and big carriers, you can understand why he's first choice. That
said, his decision making is suspect at times. He gives away a
lot of daft penalties, which is where, I suspect, most of the
frustration comes from. He's throwing is also inconsistent. He's
looked upon as an experienced first teamer, England fringe
player, and is judged accordingly.
>
> I think fans are kinder on Riley as he's come through the
academy and he isn't yet the finished article. He's got great
hands at the line and is dynamic in the loose, albeit a bit more
footwork compared to Walker's grunt. You could argue a bit of a
highlights player, but he shows flashes of real quality.
>
--- End Quote ---
A few weeks ago the stats showed Walker as having a ridiculously
high success rate at the lineout, to be fair. And we know the
side lacks decent operators at the lineout when Lewies is
injured - only Lamb, Kenningham, and maybe Dombrandt are good
enough to be front line jumpers and only Lamb can call them
really.
Riley has over 70 appearances for us, he's not some callow yoof
and his improvement is happening very slowly. I don't want to
write him off, I just think he's an obvious downgrade on Walker
and I'm surprised that RR overlooks the flaws as he's usually
pretty good at judging Quins players dispassionately!
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Re: Teams Up!
DIR By: MaidstoneQuin
Date: February 28, 2025, 5:27 pm
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I get the impression jibulu leaving is like Lynagh. Probably
would have stayed but we didn’t front up.
Poor judgement again, I’d have chosen him other either of our
hookers personally, and I wouldn’t be surprised to see when
Walkers deal expires we probably will have to spend more
bringing big name in.
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Re: Teams Up!
DIR By: JammyGit
Date: February 28, 2025, 5:29 pm
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--- Quote from: MaidstoneQuin link ---
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> I get the impression jibulu leaving is like Lynagh. Probably
would have stayed but we didn’t front up.
>
> Poor judgement again, I’d have chosen him other either of our
hookers personally, and I wouldn’t be surprised to see when
Walkers deal expires we probably will have to spend more
bringing big name in.
>
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There's gotta be enough things for you to criticise the club for
without inventing scenarios
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Re: Teams Up!
DIR By: Thegp
Date: February 28, 2025, 6:26 pm
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Jibulu see also Tizard. Taking the ££££ with no patience for the
fact Quins brought them through and they weren’t worthy of a
massive contract after 1 year
How many Quins who left for the £££ have done better since?
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Re: Teams Up!
DIR By: Carbonm
Date: March 1, 2025, 2:28 am
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--- Quote from: MaidstoneQuin link ---
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> I get the impression jibulu leaving is like Lynagh. Probably
would have stayed but we didn’t front up.
>
> Poor judgement again, I’d have chosen him other either of our
hookers personally, and I wouldn’t be surprised to see when
Walkers deal expires we probably will have to spend more
bringing big name in.
>
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We should have pulled out all the stops to keep Jibilu as he
already looked the real deal and would only get better. I'd have
be happy to keep Riley as third choice and had Walker and Jibs
fighting it out to start. It is what it is, definitely an area
we need to prioritise for next season. What's happened to Musk
and Head?
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Re: Teams Up!
DIR By: Quinston Churchill
Date: March 1, 2025, 4:08 am
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Based on Jibulu’s interviews, it feels like he wanted to leave
regardless of what was offered to him.
He has the potential to be a very good player but I’m never a
fan of players who simply want to chase the money.
If he doesn’t get capped while he’s at Sale, he’ll probably
start courting a move to France.
#Post#: 134697--------------------------------------------------
Re: Teams Up!
DIR By: Quinten Poulsen
Date: March 1, 2025, 4:50 am
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From the Sale press release it sounded like he'd always wanted
to move to Manchester and was going to spend the rest of his
life there.
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Re: Teams Up!
DIR By: FatQuin
Date: March 1, 2025, 5:05 am
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We mustn’t comment on that press release. Those that do are
being too sensitive apparently. Which feels like those people
saying that are being a little…well you know where I’m going
with this.
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Re: Teams Up!
DIR By: Brown Bottle
Date: March 1, 2025, 5:19 am
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--- Quote from: FatQuin link ---
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> We mustn’t comment on that press release. Those that do are
being too sensitive apparently. Which feels like those people
saying that are being a little…well you know where I’m going
with this.
>
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The ones who criticised him for that release were just being
childish.
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