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       #Post#: 134035--------------------------------------------------
       Re: London Irish
   DIR By: Narbia
       Date: February 12, 2025, 5:59 pm
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       > They say they want the fans at the centre but then talk about
       playing in URC
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       You might find this'll explain it a bit.....
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       #Post#: 134036--------------------------------------------------
       Re: London Irish
   DIR By: deadlyfrom5yardsout
       Date: February 13, 2025, 3:07 am
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       My fleeting interest in resuscitating the Plastics is tempered
       by 2 things:-
       Firstly, its Jordans son that is behind this and he talks about
       some wacky fan investment/subscription programme to provide the
       Finance.
       Secondly, do Irish still have Title to Hazelwood even in
       Administration, and therefore, is this just yet another Property
       Developer chancer?
       #Post#: 134037--------------------------------------------------
       Re: London Irish
   DIR By: Narbia
       Date: February 13, 2025, 3:51 am
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       --- Quote from: deadlyfrom5yardsout link ---
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       > Secondly, do Irish still have Title to Hazelwood even in
       Administration, and therefore, is this just yet another Property
       Developer chancer?
       >
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       See @Camquin above. LIRFC in its various corporate forms are
       still in administration, and therefore have title to nowt. It
       would appear that companies associated with EJ have only
       purchased the IP and branding. Hazelwood is still available for
       I believe £16.4 Mn.
       I know little about EJ  other than he supported LI, and made his
       fortune in F1 racing, via the eponymous Jordan team.  I'd bet my
       last dollar he'd NOT be interested in any property spruiking.
       Others might of course, even although Hazelwood is covenanted to
       be a sports ground ad infinitum.
       Personally I don't think (as others have stated) that there's
       sufficient potential demand for 3 London based GP teams. That's
       why a London based URC team with Saffer interest MIGHT be
       viable.  Either way this is a LONG term project. Glad to be
       proven wrong though.
       #Post#: 134038--------------------------------------------------
       Re: London Irish
   DIR By: Yareet
       Date: February 13, 2025, 3:54 am
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       --- Quote from: deadlyfrom5yardsout link ---
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       > My fleeting interest in resuscitating the Plastics is tempered
       by 2 things:-
       >
       > Firstly, its Jordans son that is behind this and he talks
       about some wacky fan investment/subscription programme to
       provide the Finance.
       >
       > Secondly, do Irish still have Title to Hazelwood even in
       Administration, and therefore, is this just yet another Property
       Developer chancer?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Deaders, I may be extrapolating too much from one line of
       internet copy but it seems that we want teams to come back only
       if they have the facilities in place but anyone who resources a
       club with facilities is branded as a potential property chancer.
       I get that we are all bitten by the Worcester debacle but
       personally I can't see how any club comes into pro rugby without
       a training ground.
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       Re: London Irish
   DIR By: poorfour
       Date: February 13, 2025, 6:05 am
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       --- Quote from: deadlyfrom5yardsout link ---
       > Secondly, do Irish still have Title to Hazelwood even in
       Administration, and therefore, is this just yet another Property
       Developer chancer?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       My daughter's club are clustered with LI Amateurs, so we train
       at Hazelwood fairly regularly. What the people there have said
       is that it's owned by the amateur club. Presumably they'd be
       happy to have the putative pros train there (it's a fantastic
       site) but would want to keep the ownership separate to protect
       the community side of things.
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       Re: London Irish
   DIR By: Domestos
       Date: February 13, 2025, 12:09 pm
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       --- Quote from: poorfour link ---
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       > My daughter's club are clustered with LI Amateurs, so we train
       at Hazelwood fairly regularly. What the people there have said
       is that it's owned by the amateur club. Presumably they'd be
       happy to have the putative pros train there (it's a fantastic
       site) but would want to keep the ownership separate to protect
       the community side of things.
       >
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       (it's a fantastic site)
       I don't agree. If you are spectating, it's quite a long walk out
       to the pitch. No stand. Get behind someone taller than you and
       you won't see a thing.
       What was wrong with the old site? You walked down some steps in
       the middle of the stand and you were in the bar!
       #Post#: 134071--------------------------------------------------
       Re: London Irish
   DIR By: Mayor West
       Date: February 13, 2025, 12:42 pm
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       It’s not a long walk out to the main pitch at Hazelwood. It’s
       the first one you come to after leaving the bar. After that the
       artificial pitch. It’s a long walk to the furthest pitches but
       which other ground has that many. I think it’s one of the best
       rugby club grounds I’ve been to. But it was attached to a
       Premiership team.
       #Post#: 134072--------------------------------------------------
       Re: London Irish
   DIR By: poorfour
       Date: February 13, 2025, 1:26 pm
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       I was thinking of it in terms of being a training facility,
       which is what it would be for LI; they'd need access to a proper
       stadium for matchdays.
       #Post#: 134075--------------------------------------------------
       Re: London Irish
   DIR By: Domestos
       Date: February 13, 2025, 4:31 pm
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       I thought we were discussing London Irish - the professional
       side coming back to play at Sunbury?
       We won't be playing for the professional side - but we might be
       spectating.
       Facilities for spectators when there are more than a hundred or
       so watching are poor. As I said get behind some big bloke and
       you ain't going to see a thing.
       #Post#: 134077--------------------------------------------------
       Re: London Irish
   DIR By: poorfour
       Date: February 13, 2025, 5:43 pm
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       --- Quote from: Domestos link ---
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       > I thought we were discussing London Irish - the professional
       side coming back to play at Sunbury?
       >
       > We won't be playing for the professional side - but we might
       be spectating.
       >
       > Facilities for spectators when there are more than a hundred
       or so watching are poor. As I said get behind some big bloke and
       you ain't going to see a thing.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       You might have been talking about that. I wasn’t. As is evident
       to all of us, Hazelwood is not a suitable site for a
       professional team to host matches. But it is an excellent site
       for a pro team to train at, which is one of the purposes it was
       designed for.
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