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       Re: Champions cup lost its sparkle?
   DIR By: Quinky
       Date: December 13, 2024, 6:48 am
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       --- Quote from: KentQuin link ---
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       > Quins and Saints did well to get to the semi's last season,
       but both comprehensively beaten in the end.
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       I'm not sure 20-17 goes down as a comprehensive defeat.
       #Post#: 131446--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Champions cup lost its sparkle?
   DIR By: never sleep
       Date: December 13, 2024, 6:51 am
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       Yeah, and we were still in the game towards the end when we won
       a kickable penalty, but it got reversed (thanks Joe).
       #Post#: 131494--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Champions cup lost its sparkle?
   DIR By: deadlyfrom5yardsout
       Date: December 14, 2024, 7:52 am
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       > Don't you have a Sunday commitment" butler?
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       Yes of course but the one thing a Butler cannot do is drink for
       you. Salmon, Asparagus, Brazilian pepper, Roquefort sourdough
       toasted lightly with several bottles of Krug to start the
       day.....
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       Re: Champions cup lost its sparkle?
   DIR By: Mayor West
       Date: December 14, 2024, 8:25 am
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       I found Krug terribly underwhelming, maybe it’s suited to your
       taste but I prefer a Pol Roger
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       Re: Champions cup lost its sparkle?
   DIR By: SiB
       Date: December 15, 2024, 12:55 pm
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       Stormers head coach saying not a good look, and time to
       reevaluate.
       Has it got worse since it became “ Less Europe”
       Then you read this about the SA teams
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       #Post#: 131580--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Champions cup lost its sparkle?
   DIR By: Quinky
       Date: December 15, 2024, 1:46 pm
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       --- Quote from: deadlyfrom5yardsout link ---
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       > Yes of course but the one thing a Butler cannot do is drink
       for you. Salmon, Asparagus, Brazilian pepper, Roquefort
       sourdough toasted lightly with several bottles of Krug to start
       the day.....
       >
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       And what does everyone else have?
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       Re: Champions cup lost its sparkle?
   DIR By: Archquin
       Date: December 15, 2024, 3:36 pm
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       Pomagne
       #Post#: 131583--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Champions cup lost its sparkle?
   DIR By: MaidstoneQuin
       Date: December 15, 2024, 3:48 pm
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       It really is laughable how the SA sides were allowed in, we’ve
       hardly got many vintage moments and it just alienates fans.
       Sadly I’m sure we will get a champions final in Dubai soon as
       those who have the most most controls things
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       Re: Champions cup lost its sparkle?
   DIR By: JammyGit
       Date: December 15, 2024, 6:10 pm
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       The "success" of Premiership football and the champions League
       was the worst thing to happen to pro rugby, really.
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       Re: Champions cup lost its sparkle?
   DIR By: dinsdale
       Date: December 16, 2024, 2:33 am
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       --- Quote from: JammyGit link ---
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       > The "success" of Premiership football and the champions League
       was the worst thing to happen to pro rugby, really.
       >
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       This would be less of a problem if the people running the sport
       weren't so eye-wateringly stupid. Having a vague idea of the
       value of your sport to broadcasters should be a prerequisite for
       entering in to negotiations, along with an idea of what a
       sustainable league looks like.
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