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South Western Railway is nationalised
DIR By: Quince
Date: December 3, 2024, 8:06 pm
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Re: South Western Railway is nationalised
DIR By: deadlyfrom5yardsout
Date: December 4, 2024, 2:43 am
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And you thought the disruption was bad before....
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Re: South Western Railway is nationalised
DIR By: MaidstoneQuin
Date: December 4, 2024, 3:35 am
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The champagne socialists will think this is great, but fail to
realise we already have nationalised trains and the tickets
aren’t cheaper and the service isn’t better. It’s only when you
go to places like the US, whilst despite being expensive in
general, public transport is cheap as chips. That will never
transpire here.
Fully expect the Labour government to take away the free bus
passes for pensioners and the veterans rail card to divert the
costs to some net zero type project which won’t make a blind bit
of difference, or have funds diverted to our boat friends
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Re: South Western Railway is nationalised
DIR By: Quinky
Date: December 4, 2024, 3:51 am
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I can't see how this is ever going to improve anything, other
that the (inevitably striking) rail workers' pay packets.
I regularly spend time in parts of Asia. When I look at how they
function, it makes me wonder why on earth the UK is in such a
mess. If we had a rail system that was as efficient as the
Japanese... but then I look at the government and realise it
will never happen.
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Re: South Western Railway is nationalised
DIR By: poorfour
Date: December 4, 2024, 4:00 am
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--- Quote from: Quinky link ---
>
> I can't see how this is ever going to improve anything, other
that the (inevitably striking) rail workers' pay packets.
>
> I regularly spend time in parts of Asia. When I look at how
they function, it makes me wonder why on earth the UK is in such
a mess. If we had a rail system that was as efficient as the
Japanese... but then I look at the government and realise it
will never happen.
>
--- End Quote ---
As I understand it, the reason Japan has an efficient rail
system is largely a matter of geography. As a long, thin country
with most people living in a fairly thin coastal strip, and a
lot of mountainous terrain, it made sense to invest in an
effective rail network and there isn't the space for a competing
network of roads.
The UK is comparatively wide and flat and we allowed
roadbuilding to compete while underinvesting in rail
infrastructure. And the Civil Service lawyers who drafted the
rail privatisation bill regarded it as very apt that it went
into force on 1 April.
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Re: South Western Railway is nationalised
DIR By: Quinky
Date: December 4, 2024, 4:08 am
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--- Quote from: poorfour link ---
>
> As I understand it, the reason Japan has an efficient rail
system is largely a matter of geography. As a long, thin country
with most people living in a fairly thin coastal strip, and a
lot of mountainous terrain, it made sense to invest in an
effective rail network and there isn't the space for a competing
network of roads.
>
> The UK is comparatively wide and flat and we allowed
roadbuilding to compete while underinvesting in rail
infrastructure. And the Civil Service lawyers who drafted the
rail privatisation bill regarded it as very apt that it went
into force on 1 April.
>
--- End Quote ---
Fair points. But without wishing to go on a pro-ESEA dialogue, I
suspect it's also hugely about culture, mentality, respect etc
etc etc
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Re: South Western Railway is nationalised
DIR By: boroughquin
Date: December 4, 2024, 4:23 am
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--- Quote from: Quinky link ---
>
> Fair points. But without wishing to go on a pro-ESEA dialogue,
I suspect it's also hugely about culture, mentality, respect etc
etc etc
>
--- End Quote ---
Am I right in thinking there's a fines/refunds policy in place
for when trains are late by a certain amount of time (a few
minutes?) so passengers either get their money back or rail
companies are fined, in order to ensure punctuality and
reliability is the main priority?
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Re: South Western Railway is nationalised
DIR By: dr_miles
Date: December 4, 2024, 4:49 am
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--- Quote from: MaidstoneQuin link ---
>
> The champagne socialists will think this is great, but fail to
realise we already have nationalised trains and the tickets
aren’t cheaper and the service isn’t better. It’s only when you
go to places like the US, whilst despite being expensive in
general, public transport is cheap as chips. That will never
transpire here.
>
> Fully expect the Labour government to take away the free bus
passes for pensioners and the veterans rail card to divert the
costs to some net zero type project which won’t make a blind bit
of difference, or have funds diverted to our boat friends
>
--- End Quote ---
Daily Mail bingo full house!
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Re: South Western Railway is nationalised
DIR By: SiB
Date: December 4, 2024, 5:05 am
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Simon Calder ( Travel expert) already stated this will only save
1% of what the tax payer burden is
Still I’m sure the service will improve massively when it’s run
by the union, and there will be no more safety issues
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Re: South Western Railway is nationalised
DIR By: MaidstoneQuin
Date: December 4, 2024, 7:09 am
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--- Quote from: dr_miles link ---
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> Daily Mail bingo full house!
>
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Absolutely, but not really incorrect. Just saying it’s
nationalised won’t change a thing, as evidenced by what’s here
already under the states control. If people think it will bring
what we really want, which is cheaper tickets; dream on.
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