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South Western Railway is nationalised
By: Quince Date: December 3, 2024, 8:06 pm
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Re: South Western Railway is nationalised
By: deadlyfrom5yardsout Date: December 4, 2024, 2:43 am
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And you thought the disruption was bad before....
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Re: South Western Railway is nationalised
By: MaidstoneQuin Date: December 4, 2024, 3:35 am
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The champagne socialists will think this is great, but fail to
realise we already have nationalised trains and the tickets
aren’t cheaper and the service isn’t better. It’s only when you
go to places like the US, whilst despite being expensive in
general, public transport is cheap as chips. That will never
transpire here.
Fully expect the Labour government to take away the free bus
passes for pensioners and the veterans rail card to divert the
costs to some net zero type project which won’t make a blind bit
of difference, or have funds diverted to our boat friends
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Re: South Western Railway is nationalised
By: Quinky Date: December 4, 2024, 3:51 am
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I can't see how this is ever going to improve anything, other
that the (inevitably striking) rail workers' pay packets.
I regularly spend time in parts of Asia. When I look at how they
function, it makes me wonder why on earth the UK is in such a
mess. If we had a rail system that was as efficient as the
Japanese... but then I look at the government and realise it
will never happen.
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Re: South Western Railway is nationalised
By: poorfour Date: December 4, 2024, 4:00 am
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[quote author=Quinky link=topic=7025.msg131009#msg131009
date=1733305862]
I can't see how this is ever going to improve anything, other
that the (inevitably striking) rail workers' pay packets.
I regularly spend time in parts of Asia. When I look at how they
function, it makes me wonder why on earth the UK is in such a
mess. If we had a rail system that was as efficient as the
Japanese... but then I look at the government and realise it
will never happen.
[/quote]
As I understand it, the reason Japan has an efficient rail
system is largely a matter of geography. As a long, thin country
with most people living in a fairly thin coastal strip, and a
lot of mountainous terrain, it made sense to invest in an
effective rail network and there isn't the space for a competing
network of roads.
The UK is comparatively wide and flat and we allowed
roadbuilding to compete while underinvesting in rail
infrastructure. And the Civil Service lawyers who drafted the
rail privatisation bill regarded it as very apt that it went
into force on 1 April.
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Re: South Western Railway is nationalised
By: Quinky Date: December 4, 2024, 4:08 am
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[quote author=poorfour link=topic=7025.msg131010#msg131010
date=1733306422]
As I understand it, the reason Japan has an efficient rail
system is largely a matter of geography. As a long, thin country
with most people living in a fairly thin coastal strip, and a
lot of mountainous terrain, it made sense to invest in an
effective rail network and there isn't the space for a competing
network of roads.
The UK is comparatively wide and flat and we allowed
roadbuilding to compete while underinvesting in rail
infrastructure. And the Civil Service lawyers who drafted the
rail privatisation bill regarded it as very apt that it went
into force on 1 April.
[/quote]
Fair points. But without wishing to go on a pro-ESEA dialogue, I
suspect it's also hugely about culture, mentality, respect etc
etc etc
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Re: South Western Railway is nationalised
By: boroughquin Date: December 4, 2024, 4:23 am
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[quote author=Quinky link=topic=7025.msg131012#msg131012
date=1733306928]
Fair points. But without wishing to go on a pro-ESEA dialogue, I
suspect it's also hugely about culture, mentality, respect etc
etc etc
[/quote]
Am I right in thinking there's a fines/refunds policy in place
for when trains are late by a certain amount of time (a few
minutes?) so passengers either get their money back or rail
companies are fined, in order to ensure punctuality and
reliability is the main priority?
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Re: South Western Railway is nationalised
By: dr_miles Date: December 4, 2024, 4:49 am
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[quote author=MaidstoneQuin link=topic=7025.msg131006#msg131006
date=1733304929]
The champagne socialists will think this is great, but fail to
realise we already have nationalised trains and the tickets
aren’t cheaper and the service isn’t better. It’s only when you
go to places like the US, whilst despite being expensive in
general, public transport is cheap as chips. That will never
transpire here.
Fully expect the Labour government to take away the free bus
passes for pensioners and the veterans rail card to divert the
costs to some net zero type project which won’t make a blind bit
of difference, or have funds diverted to our boat friends
[/quote]
Daily Mail bingo full house!
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Re: South Western Railway is nationalised
By: SiB Date: December 4, 2024, 5:05 am
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Simon Calder ( Travel expert) already stated this will only save
1% of what the tax payer burden is
Still I’m sure the service will improve massively when it’s run
by the union, and there will be no more safety issues
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Re: South Western Railway is nationalised
By: MaidstoneQuin Date: December 4, 2024, 7:09 am
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[quote author=dr_miles link=topic=7025.msg131015#msg131015
date=1733309348]
Daily Mail bingo full house!
[/quote]
Absolutely, but not really incorrect. Just saying it’s
nationalised won’t change a thing, as evidenced by what’s here
already under the states control. If people think it will bring
what we really want, which is cheaper tickets; dream on.
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