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       Re: England v South Africa 16/11
   DIR By: Yareet
       Date: November 15, 2024, 9:22 am
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       --- Quote from: Camquin link ---
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       > If you watch games of that era, the handling is two passes and
       a knock on.
       > Line outs were thrown one-handed, somewhere in the vicinity of
       a jumper - but were much more of a lottery than now.
       >
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       Watch? Some of us played in games like that 👴🏼
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       Re: England v South Africa 16/11
   DIR By: Banstead Quin
       Date: November 15, 2024, 10:06 am
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       --- Quote from: Yareet link ---
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       > Watch? Some of us played in games like that 👴🏼
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Yep I remember when lifting came in and we all looked at each
       other and just threw the big bloke up in the air....forgot to
       catch him, like, but started well!
       Discussing with informed, down the pub, sources it did look like
       Theo Dan against the ABs was underpowering and the addition of
       LCD helps but both Baxter and Cole were guilty of at least one.
       Genge definitely not the player he was at Tigers. Thought Stuart
       has been OK though. He's no Collier, but....
       Agree with whomever it was above that an England win will be
       taken as a vindication rather than a crack coverer and then lose
       to Scotland, France & Ireland in the 6N and him still harping on
       about 'when we beat the Boks'. I was there when we beat them 3
       or 4 years ago with Marcus and then again last autumn when they
       absolutely tore us apart and worry it will be the latter, rather
       than the former.
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       Re: England v South Africa 16/11
   DIR By: JammyGit
       Date: November 15, 2024, 12:36 pm
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       --- Quote from: never sleep link ---
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       > I seem to recall Yareet mentioning that there are fewer scrums
       in the modern game and this is not so much an area of
       importance.
       > I am not sure I agree with him - but, I do hope he is right.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       The modern game has been going for a while and scrums are still
       really important!
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       Re: England v South Africa 16/11
   DIR By: never sleep
       Date: November 15, 2024, 12:42 pm
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       --- Quote from: JammyGit link ---
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       > The modern game has been going for a while and scrums are
       still really important!
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Well - you can certainly have that argument with Yareet.
       I am busy :-)
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       Re: England v South Africa 16/11
   DIR By: JammyGit
       Date: November 15, 2024, 12:50 pm
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       --- Quote from: never sleep link ---
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       > Well - you can certainly have that argument with Yareet.
       > I am busy :-)
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       It's been pretty much the same for the last 10-15 years, I
       figured you hadn't suddenly woken up from a coma with your last
       memory being of 1983!
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       Re: England v South Africa 16/11
   DIR By: Yareet
       Date: November 15, 2024, 1:02 pm
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       --- Quote from: JammyGit link ---
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       > The modern game has been going for a while and scrums are
       still really important!
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       A reminder that I’m a loosehead
       Having fewer scrums doesn’t make them less important.
       Quality over quantity 😁
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       Re: England v South Africa 16/11
   DIR By: MaidstoneQuin
       Date: November 16, 2024, 1:13 pm
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       Another fairly crap performance again with 15 to go.
       Same mistakes despite apparently learning from Australia?
       Genge crap, George crapper, Freeman absent, Slade and Lawrence
       are about as good as a double act of Dianne Abbott and Jeremy
       Corbyn, and JVP putting in one of the worst SH performances in
       an England 9 shirt
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       Re: England v South Africa 16/11
   DIR By: Quinky
       Date: November 16, 2024, 1:18 pm
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       --- Quote from: MaidstoneQuin link ---
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       > Another fairly crap performance again with 15 to go.
       >
       > Same mistakes despite apparently learning from Australia?
       >
       > Genge crap, George crapper, Freeman absent, Slade and Lawrence
       are about as good as a double act of Dianne Abbott and Jeremy
       Corbyn, and JVP putting in one of the worst SH performances in
       an England 9 shirt
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       They're struggling, even with a mountain of help from the
       referee.
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       Re: England v South Africa 16/11
   DIR By: MaidstoneQuin
       Date: November 16, 2024, 1:24 pm
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       England are actually the dumbest test side I’ve seen play. You’d
       think they’d never studied anything in training. Awful game
       management, and losing the contact badly.
       Borethicko needs to go, along with about 6-7 players.
       #Post#: 130336--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England v South Africa 16/11
   DIR By: Quinky
       Date: November 16, 2024, 1:31 pm
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       I guess they only won that because of power...
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