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       #Post#: 130184--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 10 year option on land for Wasps
   DIR By: Mayor West
       Date: November 13, 2024, 11:25 am
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       Doesn’t look like they’ve studied the average attendance of
       Wasps over the years. Then factored in that they’ve moved again.
       #Post#: 130191--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 10 year option on land for Wasps
   DIR By: QuincyJones
       Date: November 13, 2024, 2:47 pm
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       --- Quote from: Brown Bottle link ---
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       > Swanley Town Council's thoughts in January.
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       They needn't worry about traffic...
       #Post#: 130192--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 10 year option on land for Wasps
   DIR By: A222Quin
       Date: November 13, 2024, 3:00 pm
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       Sure I’ve said this before but it is in a dreadful location. A
       hugely busy motorway junction next to a serving a hugely busy
       motorway, a long walk from the railway station, not really
       walkable from anywhere much. Brands Hatch just down the road
       that already causes a fair bit of traffic issues for thr area.
       Sevenoaks, Westcombe Park and Tonbridge Juddian rugby clubs all
       within a few miles, currently on the border between Sarries
       (Kent) and Quins (South London) academy areas. Nowhere near
       Wasps traditional supporter base. Plenty of competition for
       ‘concert’ venues with The o2 and everything that London has to
       offer. Aside from that it’s a great plan….
       #Post#: 130206--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 10 year option on land for Wasps
   DIR By: Boonie
       Date: November 14, 2024, 4:24 am
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       Money talks - and with the way things are going, there is money
       in housing development, even if the area is already saturated
       with housing developments.
       #Post#: 130229--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 10 year option on land for Wasps
   DIR By: Mandator
       Date: November 14, 2024, 9:08 am
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       Them joining the Championship? They should be relegated to the
       bottom of the leagues like Richmond and London Scottish when
       they went bust.
       #Post#: 130388--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 10 year option on land for Wasps
   DIR By: KentQuin
       Date: November 17, 2024, 9:01 am
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       --- Quote from: A222Quin link ---
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       > Sure I’ve said this before but it is in a dreadful location. A
       hugely busy motorway junction next to a serving a hugely busy
       motorway, a long walk from the railway station, not really
       walkable from anywhere much. Brands Hatch just down the road
       that already causes a fair bit of traffic issues for thr area.
       Sevenoaks, Westcombe Park and Tonbridge Juddian rugby clubs all
       within a few miles, currently on the border between Sarries
       (Kent) and Quins (South London) academy areas. Nowhere near
       Wasps traditional supporter base. Plenty of competition for
       ‘concert’ venues with The o2 and everything that London has to
       offer. Aside from that it’s a great plan….
       >
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       I'd be surprised if the stadium goes ahead.
       It'll end up being a soulless new build housing estate miles
       from anywhere with no facilities, but will enable Sevenoaks
       council to tick their building targets quota.
       #Post#: 130462--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 10 year option on land for Wasps
   DIR By: GodstoneQuin
       Date: November 19, 2024, 10:37 am
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       A local parish council here in Kent has discovered that there
       has been a closed-doors meeting at Swanley Town Council which
       appears to have been about this.
       For info, the site suggested here is Petham Farm which is the
       other side of the M25 from the Pedham Place golf centre which
       has been much rumoured to be the site they are after.
       Crockenhill Parish Council
       PRESS RELEASE
       19.11.24
       Since the announcement by the WASPs Rugby Club on 11th November
       regarding ‘securing’ land within the South East, many residents
       have contacted Crockenhill Parish Council with their various
       questions and concerns.
       Unfortunately, we have been unable to answer many of these
       questions with any certainty. We can only assume the location of
       the land in question is within the Parish of Crockenhill as this
       was one of the two potential sites that was put forward by WASPS
       as part of Sevenoaks District Council’s new Local Plan
       consultation. We have spoken with several Crockenhill landowners
       north of the parish for clarification and have been assured that
       they have no plans to sell their Grade 2/3 agricultural land or
       smallholdings. However, we do know that Swanley Town Council own
       a section of land within the parish - an area around Petham
       Farm. We also know that they held an extraordinary meeting on
       30th October in which the only item on the agenda for this
       meeting (which the public were excluded from) was ‘Petham Farm
       agreement’.
       In terms of publicly available information, we can only find two
       documents on Swanley Town Council’s website relating to this
       potential development. One was their response to Sevenoaks
       District Council’s Local Plan consultation earlier this year in
       which they OBJECTED to the WASPS stadium, and the other was the
       agenda item on 30th October. It would appear that Swanley Town
       Council has, at some point during this year, privately changed
       its position - despite overwhelming public objection locally.
       It is not surprising that residents expect Crockenhill Parish
       Council to have been consulted regarding a significant agreement
       on land within their parish. It came as a surprise to us when
       Crockenhill Parish land was originally earmarked as a potential
       site within the consultation. Crockenhill Parish Council feel
       that they, and the public, have been deliberately kept in the
       dark throughout the whole process. We can only assume that
       plans, meetings, and agreements have been conducted entirely
       behind closed doors, without transparency, and against our
       wishes. We are appalled that Swanley Town Council, a
       neighbouring council, believe it appropriate to conduct
       themselves in this way. We have requested information from
       Swanley Town Council regarding this and are awaiting their
       official response.
       Speaking about the WASP’s announcement, Sevenoaks District
       Council Member and Chair of Crockenhill Parish Council, Cllr.
       Rachel Waterton said: “We have been blindsided. Whilst other
       local councils, groups, and residents are working together to
       protect the greenbelt from inappropriate development, we believe
       Swanley Town Council is working against us. With so many other
       large sporting facilities close by, a sports stadium on
       agricultural land within a rural location, near an already
       overstretched road network (often gridlocked) is not the
       development that the local area either wants or needs. This
       development is going to hinder considerably more residents north
       of the district than it will benefit.”
       #Post#: 130466--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 10 year option on land for Wasps
   DIR By: Andy Watson
       Date: November 19, 2024, 1:23 pm
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       As has already been stated, but I have to agree; 28,000
       supporters attending each game?
       I would imagine circumnavigating the M25  (to junction 3 is it,
       or 2?) would put people off without trying to deal with the weak
       infrastructure around the ground.
       Lucky to get attendances to 5000 I would think?
       #Post#: 130475--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 10 year option on land for Wasps
   DIR By: Camquin
       Date: November 20, 2024, 2:28 am
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       How many spectators did they get in previous seasons?
       My guess is it was closer to 2,800 than 28,000.
       How may of those paid for their tickets?
       #Post#: 130478--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 10 year option on land for Wasps
   DIR By: deadlyfrom5yardsout
       Date: November 20, 2024, 2:47 am
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       Property Development deal, all day long.
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