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       Re: Squad Future 
   DIR By: poorfour
       Date: November 10, 2024, 1:57 am
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       --- Quote from: raedarius link ---
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       > Not sure he was talking about stepping up internationally.
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       And neither was I. Both players have had good games for Quins in
       the past, but haven't had much game time. We have a tendency to
       think of players who aren't being selected as not good enough,
       when in reality there can be other reasons.
       For example, there were several posters on this board who were
       ready to ditch Will Collier in the period when he was coming
       back from injury and before Bomb had worked on fixing his
       confidence and technique.
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       Re: Squad Future 
   DIR By: JammyGit
       Date: November 10, 2024, 6:38 am
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       Head will be 26 by the end of the season. He's had 19 senior
       appearances for us over the years. At that age I think it's
       entirely reasonable to say he's not stepped up and would be a
       candidate for moving on, depending on whether it makes financial
       sense.
       Musk is a year younger but has appeared regularly. Last season
       should've been his year to kick on but he went from playing
       regularly to only having a couple of prem cup showings and
       instead played for Scottish the rest of the season. There is
       more of an argument to say he still has a decent future at Quins
       but chances are he won't get much game time this season either
       and then things are looking a bit concerning for him and his
       career as there's a chance he could still be a premiership
       regular somewhere else. If Jibulu leaves, I think it's decent
       odds we'd keep him for at least another season to be the third
       choice and see if he can kick on.
       The Collier example is not a good comparison at all. Collier was
       playing regularly for Quins for years before his injury woes and
       dramatic loss of form. The fact that some fans considered him an
       option for moving on is entirely fair - and there's no way Quins
       wouldn't have considered the same. But his years of great work
       for us and his potential to get back to his very high
       scrummaging standards would always be a strong factor in his
       favour.
       Neither Musk nor Head are in anything like the same situation.
       They're more like Jurevicius or Chris York or Harry Sloan or
       Stan South or any number of talented players who ended up
       leaving to play regularly at a lower level. Perhaps Musk still
       has a chance to bloom, and I personally doubt both of them will
       move on, but with the best will in the world at some point you
       do have to face up to the fact that players who have been on the
       books for years and not getting appearances while being
       leapfrogged by signings and younger players quite probably
       aren't good enough
       #Post#: 130025--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Squad Future 
   DIR By: euroquin
       Date: November 10, 2024, 7:22 am
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       Jibulu's move to Sale apparently a done deal.
       "Sale have completed a deal that will see Harlequins hooker
       Nathan Jibulu move to the North-West when his contract runs out
       at the end of the season. RugbyPass reported last Sunday that
       the Sharks were close to pipping Exeter, who also failed to lure
       Seb Blake from Gloucester, in the race to sign the Wimbledon
       College-educated former England U20.
       Now 21, Nathan Jibulu will move to the Sharks where he is likely
       to replace ex-Saracens, Leinster and Connacht ace Tadgh McElroy.
       The switch is also set to end any hopes Jack Walker had of
       leaving the Twickenham Stoop for the Top 14."
       From:
  HTML https://www.rugbypass.com/news/fissler-confidential-england-and-wales-battle-for-star-ex-wallaby-charged/
       #Post#: 130026--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Squad Future 
   DIR By: MaidstoneQuin
       Date: November 10, 2024, 7:25 am
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       Off to LS Nathan can go then, I don’t want him taking someone
       else’s space in the squad. No point giving game time to someone
       we can’t develop for our benefit
       #Post#: 130028--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Squad Future 
   DIR By: euroquin
       Date: November 10, 2024, 7:47 am
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       --- Quote from: MaidstoneQuin link ---
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       > Off to LS Nathan can go then, I don’t want him taking someone
       else’s space in the squad. No point giving game time to someone
       we can’t develop for our benefit
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I'd agree. Whilst his ceiling might well long term be higher
       than Riley, at the moment I'm not convinced he is necessary a
       better player. So play Riley.
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       Re: Squad Future 
   DIR By: JammyGit
       Date: November 10, 2024, 9:57 am
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       For me he is very obviously one of our two best hookers and I
       don't think it's clever to drop players because they won't be
       here next season. Particularly difficult to square that idea
       coming from someone who is so quick to criticise Quins for any
       losses...!
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       Re: Squad Future 
   DIR By: J Scott
       Date: November 10, 2024, 10:53 am
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       The most worrying comment for me was the Jack Walker looking to
       move to Top 14. With all the players that are rumoured to be
       looking make me think that it may not be a happy camp.
       Might be reading too much into it but seems like a lot want to
       leave.
       Add those to JM and DC retiring (potentially).
       #Post#: 130055--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Squad Future 
   DIR By: Archquin
       Date: November 10, 2024, 4:48 pm
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       Real shame about Jibs -I don't think Musk is being retained
       either
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       Re: Squad Future 
   DIR By: T-Bone
       Date: November 10, 2024, 4:54 pm
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       Why would jibulu leaving stop walker moving to top 14? Don't
       understand that. Presumably he's in contract and was hoping we'd
       let him leave early, but won't if jibulu goes
       #Post#: 130058--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Squad Future 
   DIR By: MaidstoneQuin
       Date: November 10, 2024, 7:25 pm
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       We are ruined financially. Second highest ST price, just no team
       to command it. Facts over feelings. Up the quins.
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