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       Re: England v Australia 9th November
   DIR By: MaidstoneQuin
       Date: November 9, 2024, 4:19 pm
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       --- Quote from: JammyGit link ---
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       > Jones hasn't gone yet.
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       Technically he hasn’t, but I think is probably on gardening
       leave or similar and not actually taking sessions
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       Re: England v Australia 9th November
   DIR By: Yareet
       Date: November 9, 2024, 5:30 pm
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       --- Quote from: MaidstoneQuin link ---
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       > Technically he hasn’t, but I think is probably on gardening
       leave or similar and not actually taking sessions
       >
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       Last I heard, he wasn’t running sessions but was doing analysis
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       Re: England v Australia 9th November
   DIR By: Banstead Quin
       Date: November 10, 2024, 2:06 am
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       Australia played what was in front of them. England played what
       was on the whiteboard in the changing room.
       The best flyhalf talent in the world, coached by the worlds best
       box kicker. It's like Tyson Fury being trained by Liberace!!!
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       Re: England v Australia 9th November
   DIR By: MaidstoneQuin
       Date: November 10, 2024, 2:27 am
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       I wonder what the RFU will do when we lose again to SA? Oh wait,
       nothing but instead have “more learnings”. Defeat, after defeat,
       after defeat against any decent world rugby. The RWC glossed
       over things massively, but if we don’t get rid of him now the
       next RWC is already doomed. It’s on this basis I hope we have an
       abysmal 6 nations, as let’s face it things won’t suddenly click
       and we look to play great rugby where France and Ireland are
       looking over their shoulders at the best side in the NH
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       Re: England v Australia 9th November
   DIR By: championes
       Date: November 10, 2024, 3:14 am
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       The light of day has made it no better. Getting home and hearing
       George say some of the players thought they had the game sealed
       after 20 mins is quite extraordinary.
       Watching a team box kick the ball away endlessly and a broken
       defensive system saved only by Marcus is just relentlessly
       disappointing.
       How have we created a side that is based entirely on one
       individual occasionally being allowed to play rugby seemingly
       against the general game plan.
       Why is everyone static all the time in possession when they
       receive the ball and why do we kick endlessly
       The SA game could be brutal.
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       Re: England v Australia 9th November
   DIR By: FatQuin
       Date: November 10, 2024, 3:18 am
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       Would rather all Quins boys are taken out of this England team
       and we let the RFU ruin everyone else’s players.  I haven’t had
       any interest in international rugby for years now.  Once there’s
       a credible coaching set up in place, they can have them  back.
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       Re: England v Australia 9th November
   DIR By: RodneyRegis
       Date: November 10, 2024, 3:50 am
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       > Earl?!? Top carrier and second top tackler for England?
       >
       > The pack getting repeatedly run over, and a suicidal defensive
       system made even worse by Henry Slade, a man whose commitment to
       shooting up and missing is akin to a chiuahaha with an addiction
       to chasing police cars, were much much bigger problems than a
       guy who actually did some good stuff at times.
       >
       > Bell and Valentini bullied the England forwards, England ran
       out of puff chasing lost causes, and the guy keeping us in it
       got moved from 10 right on schedule only for his replacement to
       have a big hand in giving Australia another easy try.
       >
       > Rubbish stuff.
       >
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       Someone put his official match stats on the other place
       10 tackles, 5 missed
       4 turnovers conceded
       92 doglegs created
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       Re: England v Australia 9th November
   DIR By: RodneyRegis
       Date: November 10, 2024, 3:51 am
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       --- Quote from: MaidstoneQuin link ---
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       > Ford was again to blame for their second to last try. Too many
       players in the side who need to be cast off but won’t. George,
       Slade, and even Freeman. OSH and IFW both need a start
       >
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       Freeman has 14 caps for England, all starts. 2 tries.
       His club team mate has the same scoring record and has not
       started a game yet.
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       Re: England v Australia 9th November
   DIR By: SunburyQuin
       Date: November 10, 2024, 3:52 am
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       --- Quote from: FatQuin link ---
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       > Would rather all Quins boys are taken out of this England team
       and we let the RFU ruin everyone else’s players.  I haven’t had
       any interest in international rugby for years now.  Once there’s
       a credible coaching set up in place, they can have them  back.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Quins players ratings in yesterday's game (out of 5 stars) IMHO:
       CCS **** (4) .....2 tries, good carries, big hits but ran out of
       steam in the last qtr
       Alex *** (3) ..... solid, hardworking
       Finn Baxter ***(3) ditto
       Marcus ****** (6) Yes, 6 ! Inspirational in both attack &
       defence. Led the team by example. Even Austin Healey was
       effusive about him. Crazy that he was pushed back to FB to
       accommodate Ford at FH. Insisted he was the boss when he took
       the conversion. Sadly, if he were still here, he would be
       understudying Farrell (who would always be picked even if he had
       2 broken legs !).
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       Re: England v Australia 9th November
   DIR By: RodneyRegis
       Date: November 10, 2024, 3:55 am
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       > The only good I take from all this is that it is a massive
       wake up call before the 6 nations and that the Lions tour to
       Australia will not be the walkover that it was looking like to
       be and will be a real competition.
       > The 6 Nations is last chance time for Borthwick and if he
       fails he will go-but who to replace him?
       > At least we can console ourselves that next Saturday we play
       against the weaker of all the teams over in the UK!
       >
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       The Lions will be a walkover. They are awful. They are no. 10
       for a reason. We missed 40 tackles and conceded 30 linebreaks.
       And they just scraped it. Divide both of those by 10 and see how
       they get on against a proper defensive outfit vs the lions.
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