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       Re: England v Australia 9th November
   DIR By: Quinspirational
       Date: November 9, 2024, 11:57 am
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       Disappointing
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       Re: England v Australia 9th November
   DIR By: Quinky
       Date: November 9, 2024, 11:58 am
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       I saw some of the game. Several players seem to be living off
       reputation and past glories.
       Commentators and online reviews having about Marcus, but not
       about anyone else. Is that a fair reflection?
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       Re: England v Australia 9th November
   DIR By: championes
       Date: November 9, 2024, 11:59 am
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       Borthwick surely must be sacked when we inevitably end the
       autumn having only beaten Japan.
       That was abysmal.
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       Re: England v Australia 9th November
   DIR By: JammyGit
       Date: November 9, 2024, 12:10 pm
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       --- Quote from: Wirralquin link ---
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       > well that was awful!!  Australia are probably the worst team
       in southern hemisphere by far atm . this england team is truly
       awful . Earl is the problem
       >
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       Earl?!? Top carrier and second top tackler for England?
       The pack getting repeatedly run over, and a suicidal defensive
       system made even worse by Henry Slade, a man whose commitment to
       shooting up and missing is akin to a chiuahaha with an addiction
       to chasing police cars, were much much bigger problems than a
       guy who actually did some good stuff at times.
       Bell and Valentini bullied the England forwards, England ran out
       of puff chasing lost causes, and the guy keeping us in it got
       moved from 10 right on schedule only for his replacement to have
       a big hand in giving Australia another easy try.
       Rubbish stuff.
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       Re: England v Australia 9th November
   DIR By: Rigger
       Date: November 9, 2024, 12:26 pm
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       If you need convincing how important the coach is, see how Smidt
       has turned the Aussies’ fortunes around. Whilst very
       disappointed, they deserved that win. Far more dynamic at the
       breakdown
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       Re: England v Australia 9th November
   DIR By: MaidstoneQuin
       Date: November 9, 2024, 12:26 pm
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       Ford was again to blame for their second to last try. Too many
       players in the side who need to be cast off but won’t. George,
       Slade, and even Freeman. OSH and IFW both need a start
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       Re: England v Australia 9th November
   DIR By: JammyGit
       Date: November 9, 2024, 12:36 pm
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       Yeah it's a shame that Freeman hasn't nailed down the place but
       he's been on a slow slide into mediocrity since returning to the
       team. I remain convinced his international future should be
       primarily as a 13.
       Slade is a disaster who is also offering extremely little in
       attack.
       George played pretty well but if he wasn't captain I'd not want
       him starting often. I'm not sure LCD is what we need either; his
       power was helpful but he could've been binned for a really bad
       tackle almost immediately, and he doesn't have the energy or
       effectiveness of old.
       Curry was largely just a tackler before taking himself out, we
       yet again did not get close to the ball at the breakdown, and
       seeing Curry, Martin, and other big forwards get blasted out of
       the way was extremely disturbing.
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       Re: England v Australia 9th November
   DIR By: KentQuin
       Date: November 9, 2024, 12:42 pm
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       --- Quote from: Rigger link ---
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       > If you need convincing how important the coach is, see how
       Smidt has turned the Aussies’ fortunes around.
       >
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       100%. Its been apparent from the get go that Borthwick is out of
       his depth.
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       Re: England v Australia 9th November
   DIR By: Carbonm
       Date: November 9, 2024, 12:58 pm
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       Watch Stephen Jones blame it all on Marcus for the last try
       🙄
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       Re: England v Australia 9th November
   DIR By: Mandator
       Date: November 9, 2024, 1:52 pm
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       The only good I take from all this is that it is a massive wake
       up call before the 6 nations and that the Lions tour to
       Australia will not be the walkover that it was looking like to
       be and will be a real competition.
       The 6 Nations is last chance time for Borthwick and if he fails
       he will go-but who to replace him?
       At least we can console ourselves that next Saturday we play
       against the weaker of all the teams over in the UK!
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