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       #Post#: 129684--------------------------------------------------
       Re: O/T England v ABs
   DIR By: 22 Dropout
       Date: November 2, 2024, 12:15 pm
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       ...because pulling back to deep and defending has always worked
       against the All Blacks...
       #Post#: 129685--------------------------------------------------
       Re: O/T England v ABs
   DIR By: Rocker
       Date: November 2, 2024, 12:25 pm
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       Ridiculous, we looked a shadow of our former selves after Marcus
       went off 🙄
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       Re: O/T England v ABs
   DIR By: JammyGit
       Date: November 2, 2024, 12:30 pm
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       Sadly also true for the front row, Fin and Cole both struggled.
       All the fitness gambles bar Dombrandt were poor though, T Curry
       was largely anonymous, Slade awful, and Ford had 3 big moments
       that were all to England's detriment.
       Such a shame that the idea of keeping the players who are good
       enough to earn the lead is anathema. Smith has such a great
       record at the death.
       #Post#: 129688--------------------------------------------------
       Re: O/T England v ABs
   DIR By: poorfour
       Date: November 2, 2024, 12:44 pm
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       --- Quote from: FatQuin link ---
       >
       > Love this NZ Loosehead.  How is he playing international
       rugby?  More of that please.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I think he's playing it because Ethan de Groot was naughty
       during the week
       #Post#: 129691--------------------------------------------------
       Re: O/T England v ABs
   DIR By: GitBoy
       Date: November 2, 2024, 12:58 pm
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       --- Quote from: JammyGit link ---
       >
       > Sadly also true for the front row, Fin and Cole both
       struggled. All the fitness gambles bar Dombrandt were poor
       though, T Curry was largely anonymous, Slade awful, and Ford had
       3 big moments that were all to England's detriment.
       >
       > Such a shame that the idea of keeping the players who are good
       enough to earn the lead is anathema. Smith has such a great
       record at the death.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       That ending made me irrationally angry to the point of leaving
       the house to save my poor family from me.
       Why the changes (Ford). Why going the wrong way for the drop
       goal off rucks. Why go for it from such poor service.
       WHY?!?!??
       #Post#: 129692--------------------------------------------------
       Re: O/T England v ABs
   DIR By: Rocker
       Date: November 2, 2024, 1:33 pm
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       It was a particularly daft end to the game. We did so well to
       get back into the lead only to blow it 😥
       #Post#: 129693--------------------------------------------------
       Re: O/T England v ABs
   DIR By: RodneyRegis
       Date: November 2, 2024, 1:36 pm
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       --- Quote from: Fearless Fred link ---
       >
       > Thing is that these games *do* have something more than
       Friendly status. The draw for the next RWC will depend on World
       Ranking points, so any chance to slip down to the second level
       of the draw, particularly with the expansion of the competition
       to 24 teams could have a big impact on who a team end up facing.
       The only "friendly" games in a Head Coaches' mind now are
       BaaBaas and A-Team (and even the latter of those will have some
       bearing on squad makeup etc...)
       >
       > Plus Borthwick is only allowed so many changes to the previous
       squad.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       you guys keep saying this. Borthwick is allowed to pick the side
       he wants. Always has been. Even if he wasn't, he's dropped the
       best wine  in the country. Freeman is the 4th best back 3 player
       at his club.
       Manny FW is the myth that keeps on mything. The idea that either
       are picked ahead of Sleightholme.
       And my mum is only a teensy weensy bit less dynamic than Henry
       slade.
       #Post#: 129694--------------------------------------------------
       Re: O/T England v ABs
   DIR By: RodneyRegis
       Date: November 2, 2024, 1:36 pm
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       --- Quote from: Fearless Fred link ---
       >
       > Thing is that these games *do* have something more than
       Friendly status. The draw for the next RWC will depend on World
       Ranking points, so any chance to slip down to the second level
       of the draw, particularly with the expansion of the competition
       to 24 teams could have a big impact on who a team end up facing.
       The only "friendly" games in a Head Coaches' mind now are
       BaaBaas and A-Team (and even the latter of those will have some
       bearing on squad makeup etc...)
       >
       > Plus Borthwick is only allowed so many changes to the previous
       squad.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       you guys keep saying this. Borthwick is allowed to pick the side
       he wants. Always has been. Even if he wasn't, he's dropped the
       best winger in the country. Freeman is the 4th best back 3
       player at his club.
       Manny FW is the myth that keeps on mything. The idea that either
       are picked ahead of Sleightholme.
       And my mum is only a teensy weensy bit less dynamic than Henry
       slade.
       #Post#: 129695--------------------------------------------------
       Re: O/T England v ABs
   DIR By: Quinten Poulsen
       Date: November 2, 2024, 1:45 pm
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       IFW always does extremely well for a myth. Possibly the best
       myth for donkey's years.
       #Post#: 129696--------------------------------------------------
       Re: O/T England v ABs
   DIR By: MaidstoneQuin
       Date: November 2, 2024, 1:51 pm
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       Another “nearly nearly loss” but a loss all the same. Just not
       enough quality when needed.
       Might improve by getting rid of the likes of Slade. Also,
       Freeman to 13 might be better as on the wing he’s basically
       Freddie steward; decent under a high ball but little else end
       product.
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