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       #Post#: 127395--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Matas Jurevicius Joins Ealing
   DIR By: Quinston Churchill
       Date: September 1, 2024, 1:36 am
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       --- Quote from: TomBuckQuin link ---
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       > Yeah, a shame, but can understand him going after first team
       rugby elsewhere. In front of him at 6 he has: CCS, Chisholm,
       Trenholm, Kenningham and then arguably Lewies/Lamb/Hammond if we
       decide we want to have a 5.5 at 6 for a game here or there. He
       would have had to be very patient if he chose to stay... Good
       luck to him.
       >
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       Yeah. I feel the same and totally understand he move. However, I
       do think we may regret letting him go in the medium term. I
       think he’ll really kick on at Ealing and could end up being
       first team standard for a Premiership side.
       #Post#: 127398--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Matas Jurevicius Joins Ealing
   DIR By: Banstead Quin
       Date: September 1, 2024, 2:47 pm
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       This is sometimes where I struggle with how we extend contracts
       for older players and let younger players go. Difficult to judge
       how he would have progressed with solid game time but him and
       Hammond together were like the chaos twins together.
       I'd have rather kept him and let Lawday go, as sentiment wins
       you nothing. He will have a very good career and will get back
       into a Prem side in 25/26.
       #Post#: 127419--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Matas Jurevicius Joins Ealing
   DIR By: Banstead Quin
       Date: September 3, 2024, 6:39 am
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       Thanks for the dumb, JimmyG, happy for you to counter with your
       view but if you're struggling with RSI, don't worry!!!!!
       #Post#: 127425--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Matas Jurevicius Joins Ealing
   DIR By: Bucksquin
       Date: September 3, 2024, 10:09 am
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       --- Quote from: Banstead Quin link ---
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       > Thanks for the dumb, JimmyG, happy for you to counter with
       your view but if you're struggling with RSI, don't worry!!!!!
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Perhaps JimmyG's point is how on earth can you (or I, for that
       matter) make that kind of forthright statement with any rugby
       credibility to it? The coaches who have seen these players play
       and train for some years now know them inside out. There are
       also other factors, such as salary cost, playing styles,
       utility, injury record, and many others.
       #Post#: 127426--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Matas Jurevicius Joins Ealing
   DIR By: JammyGit
       Date: September 3, 2024, 10:34 am
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       Also Lawday is an excellent and highly reliable player who has
       produced many fine performances across the back row and
       represents excellent value for money.
       #Post#: 127431--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Matas Jurevicius Joins Ealing
   DIR By: Banstead Quin
       Date: September 4, 2024, 4:50 am
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       Don't think I said Lawday wasn't a good player, did I? Just
       re-reading.............no I didn't.
       I used a lot of Bucksquin's criteria and felt that a player at
       the start of his career was better placed than one coming
       towards the end. Presuming that Lawday is on more than Matas as
       he has had more game time and would be better remunerated.
       Also, if we don't have our own opinions then this board doesn't
       really work, does it?
       #Post#: 127447--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Matas Jurevicius Joins Ealing
   DIR By: Brown Bottle
       Date: September 4, 2024, 3:15 pm
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       No board "works" if you get a bit sensitive to criticism.
       #Post#: 127461--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Matas Jurevicius Joins Ealing
   DIR By: JammyGit
       Date: September 5, 2024, 6:05 am
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       --- Quote from: Banstead Quin link ---
       >
       > Don't think I said Lawday wasn't a good player, did I? Just
       re-reading.............no I didn't.
       >
       > I used a lot of Bucksquin's criteria and felt that a player at
       the start of his career was better placed than one coming
       towards the end. Presuming that Lawday is on more than Matas as
       he has had more game time and would be better remunerated.
       >
       > Also, if we don't have our own opinions then this board
       doesn't really work, does it?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I've checked my post as well and nowhere in it did I accuse you
       of saying he wasn't a good player, so settle down!
       The point I was making is that you were suggesting Quins get rid
       of an extremely useful and reliable player who has produced
       excellent performances for us across the back row while also
       suggesting we are keeping him on "sentiment".
       I would argue that sentiment is why you want Quins to keep Matas
       ahead of Lawday, given that Matas has only ever shown brief
       promise vs Lawday's consistently good output. Any decision made
       purely on their worth to Quins on the pitch so far would never
       favour Jurevicius.
       #Post#: 127470--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Matas Jurevicius Joins Ealing
   DIR By: Quinky
       Date: September 5, 2024, 11:50 am
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       Lawds didn't do much last season due to injuries, but prior to
       that he was consistently very good
       #Post#: 127576--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Matas Jurevicius Joins Ealing
   DIR By: Thegp
       Date: September 8, 2024, 5:22 am
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       --- Quote from: Bucksquin link ---
       >
       > Perhaps JimmyG's point is how on earth can you (or I, for that
       matter) make that kind of forthright statement with any rugby
       credibility to it? The coaches who have seen these players play
       and train for some years now know them inside out. There are
       also other factors, such as salary cost, playing styles,
       utility, injury record, and many others.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Using that logic this board might as well close, if you can’t
       have an opinion on a player without being involved directly with
       the club
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