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       Re: Premier Sports confirmed for Champions Cup
   DIR By: grahamwa
       Date: August 14, 2024, 12:14 pm
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       --- Quote from: West Stand Quin link ---
       >
       > TNT also has every single premiership game this season which
       means every away Quins game is available.
       >
       > Good for those Scottish, Welsh & Irish fans who would have had
       the reverse problem in previous seasons deciding whether TNT was
       worth it for euro games.
       >
       > Big additional drawback of premier sports is I can’t see many
       pubs having it, they have Sky & TNT as they show premier league
       football
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Thanks for recognising that your celtic cousins have had the
       reverse since the Spivs decided to make the "Heiny" world
       beating!  URC folk have been able to subscribe for an annual
       cost of £89 using the code URC89 in the last few weeks. Don't
       know if its still avaialble, but its kinda fire and forget
       you've paid and very good value.
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       Re: Premier Sports confirmed for Champions Cup
   DIR By: Brown Bottle
       Date: August 14, 2024, 1:27 pm
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       --- Quote from: DazzaS link ---
       >
       > Sounds similar to last season - Friday, Saturday and Sunday
       evening matches.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Indeed. I suspect we'll have little interest in the Champions
       Cup. Apart from the crap format, 2 home 8 pm kick-offs and no
       desire for yet another subscription means we'll be unlikely to
       see any of it. 'We' being my wife and I, that is, not Quins.
       #Post#: 127001--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Premier Sports confirmed for Champions Cup
   DIR By: DOK
       Date: August 15, 2024, 2:35 am
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       It will now cost £91 a month to watch rugby: This TV schedule
       shows nightmarish reality for fans
       Only way to watch all domestic and international competition
       next season is to have multiple subscriptions at soaring expense
       Ben Coles, Rugby Reporter 14 August 2024 • 3:49pm
       Based on the length and value of recent TV deals, rugby union is
       in a holding pattern waiting for the start of the new Nations
       Championship from 2026 before signing longer, potentially more
       lucrative agreements with broadcasters.
       By then, hopefully, what is currently a quite disjointed TV
       offering will hopefully be more straightforward, because as
       things stand heading into the 2024-25 season, the new campaign
       is going to test both your ability to remember all the channel
       numbers on your service provider but also, more importantly,
       your finances.
       Following Wednesday’s announcement that the Champions Cup is
       heading to Premier Sports for the next three years, here is
       where you will now find rugby union coverage this season and how
       much it will cost from month to month.
       First, here is how it will cost consumers to have subscriptions
       with each service.
       TNT Sports – £30.99 per month as a standalone service, £20pm
       with EE TV or £28pm with Sky
       Sky Sports – £24 as an add to Sky TV, £26-£34.99 separately with
       NOW TV
       Premier Sports – £10.99 per month
       TV Licence – £14.13 per month (£169.50 per year)
       The most expensive options for Sky Sports – NOW TV’s Flexible
       Month Membership for £34.99 per month – and TNT Sports with a
       £30.99 Premium Plan through Discovery allow you to cancel at any
       time rather than being tied into a longer contract with BT or
       Sky, although that flexibility comes at a cost. Bundling Sky
       Sports and TNT Sports into a larger TV and broadband package
       with a provider has historically lowered the price, albeit over
       longer contractual terms.
       September
       Premiership Rugby (TNT), 93 matches per season, expires 2016
       URC (Premier Sports), 151 matches per season, expires 2025
       Top 14 (Premier Sports), 110 matches per season, expiry TBC
       Max monthly cost (including monthly average cost of license
       fee): £56.11
       The latest TNT deal for Premiership Rugby, announced earlier
       this year, is believed to be on reduced terms compared with the
       previous three-year agreement which ran out in 2024, mainly due
       to the reduction of Gallagher Premiership clubs from 13 to 10.
       Premier Sports was already broadcasting more club rugby matches
       than any other channel with the URC and Top 14, so the launch of
       a 24/7 rugby channel, announced in its press release confirming
       the Champions Cup deal, makes sense.
       October
       Premiership Rugby (TNT)
       Premiership Women’s Rugby (TNT), 20 matches per season, expiry
       TBC
       URC (Premier Sports)
       Top 14 (Premier Sports)
       Max monthly cost: £56.11
       The second season of Premiership Women’s Rugby on TNT will
       begin, after a multi-year agreement was announced back in 2014.
       November
       Autumn Nations Series (TNT), 21 matches per season, expires 2025
       Premiership Rugby (TNT)
       Premiership Women’s Rugby (TNT)
       URC (Premier Sports)
       Top 14 (Premier Sports)
       Max monthly cost: £56.11
       TNT to move for the rights to the Autumn Tests, taking them away
       from Amazon Prime, comes with the price of having to give up the
       rights to European rugby. It’s an understandable move in terms
       of viewing figures, given the higher interest in England and
       Test rugby than any domestic competitions, and as part of a
       well-established production the Autumn Tests should be a big
       hit.
       December
       Champions Cup and Challenge Cup (Premier Sports), 80 matches per
       season, expires 2027
       Premiership Rugby (TNT)
       Premiership Women’s Rugby (TNT)
       URC (Premier Sports)
       Top 14 (Premier Sports)
       Max monthly cost: £56.11
       The debut of Premier Sports’ European coverage, becoming the
       fifth broadcaster to show the competition in the United Kingdom
       after ITV (1996-1998), BBC (1999-2003), Sky (2003-2018) and BT
       Sport/TNT Sports (2016-2024).
       January
       Champions Cup and Challenge Cup (Premier Sports)
       Premiership Rugby (TNT)
       Premiership Women’s Rugby (TNT)
       URC (Premier Sports)
       Top 14 (Premier Sports)
       Max monthly cost: £56.11
       February
       Six Nations (BBC/ITV), expires 2025
       Premiership Women’s Rugby (TNT)
       URC (Premier Sports)
       Top 14 (Premier Sports)
       Super Rugby Pacific (Sky), expires 2025
       Max monthly cost: £91.10
       This is the final year of the current Six Nations TV deal
       between BBC and ITV, which has been broadcast on free-to-air
       television dating back to 2003. Reports earlier suggested that
       an agreement in principle is in place to continue sharing
       coverage of the men’s and women’s Six Nations.
       Sky, the former home for all of your rugby needs in the 2000s,
       is now left clinging on to action from the southern hemisphere,
       including England’s recent tour of New Zealand. That deal with
       Sanzaar expires in 2025.
       March
       Six Nations (BBC/ITV)
       Premiership Rugby (TNT)
       Premiership Women’s Rugby (TNT)
       URC (Premier Sports)
       Top 14 (Premier Sports)
       Super Rugby Pacific (Sky)
       Max monthly cost: £91.10
       The Premiership Women’s Rugby final will take place in March,
       leaving TNT with the Premiership and Champions Cup for the rest
       of the season.
       April
       Champions Cup and Challenge Cup (Premier Sports)
       Premiership Rugby (TNT)
       URC (Premier Sports)
       Top 14 (Premier Sports)
       Super Rugby Pacific (Sky)
       Max monthly cost: £91.10
       May
       Champions Cup and Challenge Cup (Premier Sports)
       Premiership Rugby (TNT)
       URC (Premier Sports)
       Top 14 (Premier Sports)
       Super Rugby Pacific (Sky)
       Max monthly cost: £91.10
       European coverage on Premier Sports comes to a close with the
       Challenge Cup and Champions Cup finals on May 23 and 24 in
       Cardiff.
       June
       British and Irish Lions tour (Sky)
       Premiership Rugby (TNT)
       URC (Premier Sports)
       Top 14 (Premier Sports)
       Super Rugby Pacific (Sky)
       Max monthly cost: £91.10
       Sky’s Lions tour coverage will begin on June 20 with the warm-up
       fixture against Argentina in Dublin, having shown every tour
       dating back to 1997. Otherwise there will be finals for the
       Premiership and URC (both June 14) and Top 14 (June 28).
       July
       British and Irish Lions tour (Sky)
       Southern Hemisphere tours (Sky)
       Super Rugby Pacific (Sky)
       Max monthly cost: £49.12
       Tours for next summer are still to be confirmed but England are
       expected to play two Tests in Argentina and one in the United
       States. The Argentina Tests would fall under the Sanzaar
       agreement.
       August
       Women’s Rugby World Cup (BBC*)
       The Rugby Championship (Sky)
       *Telegraph Sport reported back in May that the BBC is poised to
       win the race to broadcast the Women’s Rugby World Cup ahead of
       ITV and Channel 4.
       Max monthly cost: £49.12
       #Post#: 127003--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Premier Sports confirmed for Champions Cup
   DIR By: deadlyfrom5yardsout
       Date: August 15, 2024, 3:44 am
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       Premier takes over from TNT Sports whose predecessor, BT Sport,
       first agreed an exclusive deal to show the Champions Cup and
       Challenge Cup in 2017 and renewed the contract in 2022. In
       recent seasons ITV has also shown a number of fixtures as a
       terrestrial broadcast partner but that agreement has now ended.
       #Post#: 127004--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Premier Sports confirmed for Champions Cup
   DIR By: connaughtquin
       Date: August 15, 2024, 4:03 am
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       Thank goodness for UTube, albeit the next day. Always good for
       edited highlights, sometimes the full match.
       #Post#: 127009--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Premier Sports confirmed for Champions Cup
   DIR By: Adrian
       Date: August 15, 2024, 4:49 am
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       If you have a Virgin TV package you may already have Premier
       Sports, I realised this morning I already have it.
       #Post#: 127011--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Premier Sports confirmed for Champions Cup
   DIR By: Brown Bottle
       Date: August 15, 2024, 4:59 am
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       --- Quote from: AdrianB link ---
       >
       > If you have a Virgin TV package you may already have Premier
       Sports, I realised this morning I already have it.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Are you sure that isn't because Virgin are offering Premier
       Sports free in August?
       #Post#: 127013--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Premier Sports confirmed for Champions Cup
   DIR By: Adrian
       Date: August 15, 2024, 5:07 am
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       --- Quote from: Brown Bottle link ---
       >
       > Are you sure that isn't because Virgin are offering Premier
       Sports free in August?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I don't know, I need to look into it further.
       #Post#: 127014--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Premier Sports confirmed for Champions Cup
   DIR By: Adrian
       Date: August 15, 2024, 5:12 am
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       --- Quote from: Brown Bottle link ---
       >
       > Are you sure that isn't because Virgin are offering Premier
       Sports free in August?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Looks like you are correct, i didn't realise it was a freebie
       for Aug only. oh well nevermind.
       #Post#: 127040--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Premier Sports confirmed for Champions Cup
   DIR By: DazzaS
       Date: August 16, 2024, 3:26 am
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       I have some stats which I stole from the Leicester Board:
       According to BARB Premier Sport's reach is 480k per month
       compared to 4.8m for TNT & 6.8m for Sky Sports. Their total
       turnover is  €27m and cost of sales was €30m. This was year end
       December 2022 filed September 2023 according the official
       Premier Sports accounts. They lost €7m in that year and €1m the
       year before. ITV are not getting any matches. Apparently ERC
       were annoyed that ITV pushed the European Final to ITV4,
       prioritising the FA Cup final on ITV(1). Ironically not a
       problem soon as the FA Cup will be between BBC and TNT. But
       rather than renegotiate a deal, they went all in with Premier
       Sports for the UK.
       So essentially European Rugby has reduced them selves from a
       reach of up to 30 million for ITV and 4.8million for TNT to less
       than 500k on Premier Sports.
       Expanding the club game by reducing the numbers that can watch
       it. Not a great move.
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