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       #Post#: 10220--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NZ 
   DIR By: Quins Head
       Date: November 11, 2018, 3:56 am
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       We lost the short ones as well. There was 2/3 really not
       straight throws from NZ that went unpunished as well as a
       plethora of forward passes
       #Post#: 10223--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NZ 
   DIR By: JammyGit
       Date: November 11, 2018, 4:27 am
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       --- Quote from: Quinten Poulsen link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Rocker link=topic=675.msg10178#msg10178
       date=1541877079]
       > Yes I don't care how much the press love  Daly and George they
       both had bad games today. George's throwing was not good enough
       and he's throwing to his club mates!!  Daly was poor again in
       defence and did sweet fa in attack...
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I'm no expert but it looked to me like the ball was being thrown
       to the intended man (Itoje) and the Kiwi kept stealing it as we
       kept repeating the same damn lineout. Who was calling it at that
       time? Poor calling I thought.
       [/quote]
       Itoje was having to reach in front of his face to catch them,
       they were being underthrown.
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       Re: NZ 
   DIR By: Quinten Poulsen
       Date: November 11, 2018, 8:01 am
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       All 5? Even that doesn't exactly absolve the caller of blame.
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       Re: NZ 
   DIR By: JammyGit
       Date: November 11, 2018, 8:05 am
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       --- Quote from: Quinten Poulsen link ---
       >
       > All 5? Even that doesn't exactly absolve the caller of blame.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       For the two most important of them, yes, and I'd argue a 3rd
       too. Additionally some of the ones we won we were lucky they
       weren't contested as the throw was short.
       #Post#: 10232--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NZ 
   DIR By: Quinten Poulsen
       Date: November 11, 2018, 8:33 am
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       So JG and the caller to blame?
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       Re: NZ 
   DIR By: JammyGit
       Date: November 11, 2018, 9:37 am
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       No, just JG. The caller is not responsible for the thrower being
       shite regardless of where he's throwing it to.
       We didn't just go to Itoje, it's just that Itoje is the banker
       ball. When we went longer the throws were worse, we just got
       lucky.
       #Post#: 10239--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NZ 
   DIR By: Quinten Poulsen
       Date: November 11, 2018, 12:24 pm
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       Fair enough, I'm obviously remembering incorrectly. They seemed
       to go to Itoje in the middle time after time.
       #Post#: 10247--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NZ 
   DIR By: The Absolute Quintet
       Date: November 11, 2018, 4:11 pm
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       Was in gods in west upper on halfway and it was clear NZ closed
       the line, just a bit to start with but as they were allowed to
       get away with it they increased every it every throw. They were
       mobbing us by the end. It was ridiculous.
       They were also increasingly offside but so were we. It was
       weakly reffed  in the second half, no question. But Lawes charge
       down just felt offside as soon as it occurred to me and it was
       just offside enough on the replay to to be called. Boot on the
       other foot and Twickenham would be screaming PEN!
       They are so sharp with the ball in hand though. That multi phase
       spell end first half when our defence held so well until they
       broke us out wide was electric.
       #Post#: 10251--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NZ 
   DIR By: Camquin
       Date: November 12, 2018, 2:23 am
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       If you are in the Dog and Duck 3rd xv and  40 minutes before the
       match you still have not met the other forwards, you might
       limit yourself to a couple of calls.
       if you are the second best thrower in England, who has spent the
       previous two weeks working with the pack, I would expect you to
       have a few more - and be able to implement them.
       #Post#: 10261--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NZ 
   DIR By: nowexnavyquin
       Date: November 12, 2018, 5:37 am
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       They did seem to get away with tackler not rolling away a few
       times in the closing minutes of the game which was very
       frustrating.
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