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       #Post#: 126433--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England A v Australia A at the Stoop
   DIR By: dr_miles
       Date: July 22, 2024, 3:16 am
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       --- Quote from: never sleep link ---
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       > Whilst I understand the sentiment of moving the matches such
       as "A" matches and U20 matches round the country, I still think
       that The Stoop should be considered as an option. Not everyone
       can afford to go and watch first team matches at the Big Stoop
       (that is if you are lucky enough to be able to get a ticket to
       one in the first place).
       >
       > There are a lot of people who live round here who are
       inconvenienced by having 82k supporters going to England matches
       a half dozen times a year whose only hope of going to HQ is to
       be lucky enough to win one of the 200 pairs of tickets in the
       local resident's ballot (which are a. usually terrible tickets
       on the upper tier and b. still very expensive).
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I agree with this in principle, but the cost for this A team
       game is so high as to defeat the argument. It's a minimum of £45
       per ticket - I got a ticket for England v Japan for £59.
       #Post#: 126434--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England A v Australia A at the Stoop
   DIR By: Fearless Fred
       Date: July 22, 2024, 3:34 am
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       --- Quote from: never sleep link ---
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       > Whilst I understand the sentiment of moving the matches such
       as "A" matches and U20 matches round the country, I still think
       that The Stoop should be considered as an option. Not everyone
       can afford to go and watch first team matches at the Big Stoop
       (that is if you are lucky enough to be able to get a ticket to
       one in the first place).
       >
       > There are a lot of people who live round here who are
       inconvenienced by having 82k supporters going to England matches
       a half dozen times a year whose only hope of going to HQ is to
       be lucky enough to win one of the 200 pairs of tickets in the
       local resident's ballot (which are a. usually terrible tickets
       on the upper tier and b. still very expensive).
       >
       >
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       A different view is that those not in the immediate area of TW
       have a similar chance of getting a ticket through their club
       (anecdotally Quins only get 200 to ballot to their members &
       clubs at lower levels get proportionally less) and the time and
       expense of travelling to TW from, say, Manchester may mean
       having to book a hotel as well, so the total cost of an England
       Fan  from other areas may run to double or even triple the
       ticket price alone.
       Taking the "A" team games to grounds around the nation is a good
       thing. Imagine you're a falcons fan/supporter & you can get to
       see an England side  play at St James Park. Or a Sale fan
       watching them play at Old Trafford.
       #Post#: 126437--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England A v Australia A at the Stoop
   DIR By: poorfour
       Date: July 22, 2024, 4:10 am
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       HQ tickets are pricey, but it's not actually that hard to get
       hold of them.
       The key is that every rugby club gets an allocation, and the
       allocation doesn't vary that much by size and location. If you
       can find a club where there isn't that much demand for tickets,
       you have a good chance of getting them.
       I have a friend who's a member of his home town rugby club in
       the West Country, but lives within walking distance of the Big
       Stoop. The club secretary knows that he will take the tickets
       (and he has a group of friends who will consistently take them,
       including me), so he often gets a call if there is any
       allocation left over or returned from the ballot.
       He's such a reliable source of tickets that I don't often use
       the other sources I have, but I've used several over the years
       and they are all fairly reliable. When I've used the Quins
       member ballot I've had about a 50% hit rate, for instance. I'm
       also a member of a club that has a well organised ticket ballot
       but a relatively small membership, and that also has a high hit
       rate when I use it.
       If you're prepared to travel for the 6N, then it's generally
       pretty easy to get tickets direct from the respective union, at
       least for Scotland, Wales and Italy. A London-based Scottish
       friend celebrates his birthday with a trip to Murrayfield, and
       getting a reliable travel ticket to Edinburgh is harder than
       getting the seats.
       #Post#: 126442--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England A v Australia A at the Stoop
   DIR By: never sleep
       Date: July 22, 2024, 4:37 am
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       --- Quote from: Yareet link ---
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       > Sorry but living in Twickenham shouldn't give you a right to
       go to matches at the stadium. Most of us moved here after the
       stadium was built and nobody is forcing us to stay in a TW
       postcode.
       >
       > Or should we also get preferential rates on flights because
       we're also near Heathrow?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Sure - but, my point is.
       I think that taking "A" and U20 games on the road is a good
       idea. (Also include the women's games)
       I just don't this that the London stadiums should be excluded
       from the list or stadiums.
       E.g. if they were to say something like -
       Every home U20 and "A" game will be held at a different
       Premiership, Championship or Nat league stadium on rotation that
       has more that X number of seats, then I think that would be a
       good idea.
       It gives everyone a shot.
       #Post#: 126463--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England A v Australia A at the Stoop
   DIR By: A222Quin
       Date: July 22, 2024, 2:16 pm
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       The Stoop used to host a lot of the Red Roses games back in the
       dim and distant before the games were taken on the road to
       spread them round the country (quite rightly I might add). I'd
       say that these days our proximity to Big Stoop is probably more
       of a hindrance to us getting A and womens games than before and
       I guess this time it was actually 'our turn'. Proximity to
       Pennyhill/Lensbury as appropriate while the AIs are on is
       probably helpful too with no fallow weeks allowing for a fair
       bit of easy interaction between the Main and A squads.
       #Post#: 126466--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England A v Australia A at the Stoop
   DIR By: Yareet
       Date: July 22, 2024, 2:49 pm
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       --- Quote from: A222Quin link ---
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       > The Stoop used to host a lot of the Red Roses games back in
       the dim and distant before the games were taken on the road to
       spread them round the country (quite rightly I might add). I'd
       say that these days our proximity to Big Stoop is probably more
       of a hindrance to us getting A and womens games than before and
       I guess this time it was actually 'our turn'. Proximity to
       Pennyhill/Lensbury as appropriate while the AIs are on is
       probably helpful too with no fallow weeks allowing for a fair
       bit of easy interaction between the Main and A squads.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       “Our turn”?
       Wouldn’t that mean that every club gets a turn?
       #Post#: 126467--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England A v Australia A at the Stoop
   DIR By: A222Quin
       Date: July 22, 2024, 3:00 pm
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       On the list of grounds that seem to get used for A mens and
       womens games - yes. I'd like it to be spread more
       widelyarticularly in the North but there seems to be a fixed
       list - Welford Road, Franklins Gardens, Sandy Park, Kingsholm,
       Ashton Gate, Globogym HQ, The Stoop and occasionally Donny.
       #Post#: 126468--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England A v Australia A at the Stoop
   DIR By: Yareet
       Date: July 22, 2024, 4:02 pm
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       --- Quote from: A222Quin link ---
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       > On the list of grounds that seem to get used for A mens and
       womens games - yes. I'd like it to be spread more
       widelyarticularly in the North but there seems to be a fixed
       list - Welford Road, Franklins Gardens, Sandy Park, Kingsholm,
       Ashton Gate, Globogym HQ, The Stoop and occasionally Donny.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       It’s stretching things a little to talk about the stadia used
       for men’s A games.
       Before the Portugal game they hadn’t played since 2016. And that
       was away in SA.
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