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       Prem final
   DIR By: RodneyRegis
       Date: June 8, 2024, 9:27 am
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       Good. Perhaps bath will stop trying to bridge the gap with cheap
       shots now.
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       Re: Prem final
   DIR By: KentQuin
       Date: June 8, 2024, 9:38 am
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       Had to be red.
       Well done Ridley for not dodging a tough decision early in a
       final.
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       Re: Prem final
   DIR By: poorfour
       Date: June 8, 2024, 11:02 am
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       It’s good that it didn’t ruin the game. I feel bad for Obano,
       but it’s boosted Fin Baxter’s chances of touring.
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       Re: Prem final
   DIR By: MaidstoneQuin
       Date: June 8, 2024, 12:45 pm
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       Good final overall. Both will be in the top 4 next season for
       sure, probably with Sarries. I think looking at the standard of
       the playoffs, next season we probably will have our work cut out
       for ourselves if we at least don’t get someone who isn’t
       utilising the kitchen sieve defence plan.
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       Re: Prem final
   DIR By: RodneyRegis
       Date: June 8, 2024, 1:54 pm
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       Yeah this is the problem. The games were all closer than they
       ought to have been because of the tightness of the defences.
       It's a shame, I thought this season had put an end to the
       drudgery of coaches prioritising big hits over skill, but even
       saints struggled against sarries and Bath. We are better than
       them in attack, but meanwhile we'll leak try after try.
       If sleightholme isn't on the plane to nz I'm not watching. I
       don't think he's put a foot wrong since coming back from injury.
       Best winger in the country by miles.
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       Re: Prem final
   DIR By: KentQuin
       Date: June 8, 2024, 2:26 pm
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       --- Quote from: MaidstoneQuin link ---
       >
       > Good final overall. Both will be in the top 4 next season for
       sure, probably with Sarries. I think looking at the standard of
       the playoffs, next season we probably will have our work cut out
       for ourselves if we at least don’t get someone who isn’t
       utilising the kitchen sieve defence plan.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I'm not as sure as you on Saints in terms of nailed on for top
       four. They're losing Waller, Lawes, Moon and Ludlam from their
       pack next season and the only established replacement they've
       announced so far is Tom West. Of course, they might have some
       academy gems to come in but on the face of it, they look weaker
       up front.
       Bath look to have a very settled squad and Van Graan is a canny
       coach. You'd suspect they'll come back stronger next season.
       If we get our defence sorted, there's no reason we can't be
       mixing it at the top of the table next season.
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       Re: Prem final
   DIR By: Brown Bottle
       Date: June 8, 2024, 3:32 pm
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       --- Quote from: KentQuin link ---
       > ...
       >
       > If we get our defence sorted, there's no reason we can't be
       mixing it at the top of the table next season.
       >
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       If, as the Spartans said...
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       Re: Prem final
   DIR By: Banstead Quin
       Date: June 8, 2024, 4:04 pm
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       Not sure I see Sarries as Top 4 material, big changes for them.
       If they do, I think that truly will be an achievement.
       Sort the defence for us and could be good.
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       Re: Prem final
   DIR By: MaidstoneQuin
       Date: June 8, 2024, 6:48 pm
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       --- Quote from: Banstead Quin link ---
       >
       > Not sure I see Sarries as Top 4 material, big changes for
       them. If they do, I think that truly will be an achievement.
       >
       > Sort the defence for us and could be good.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I think they will still have just about enough, but I think our
       biggest competition is Bristol and Exeter
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       Re: Prem final
   DIR By: The Kid
       Date: June 9, 2024, 2:18 am
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       Pleased for saints, better team throughout the season. Bath
       really good on the day just didn’t quite have enough down a man.
       Think we can take heart from this. Beat saints at the same
       stadium handily (despite three yellow cards) and were 40-3 up on
       the other finalists at one stage at home a couple of weeks
       earlier.
       Find a way to defend in a way that complements our attack and
       can win a tight game or two and we are right back in there. The
       league is super competitive - five different winners in last
       five seasons - the pendulum will swing again next year.
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