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       #Post#: 122342--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Will Quine ever make a profit
   DIR By: RodneyRegis
       Date: April 5, 2024, 6:12 pm
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       --- Quote from: Quinspirational link ---
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       > [quote author=RodneyRegis link=topic=6522.msg122326#msg122326
       date=1712354810]
       > Nope. Just increase the north stand to where the village is.
       Or the west to the river. Easy extra 5k without affecting any
       residents.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       
       And without anyone funding it , brilliant plan
       [/quote]
       LOL. Yes. I know.
       My point is, if it were as simple as just expanding and counting
       the cash, then we would do it tomorrow.
       Obviously it's not that simple.
       I don't believe for one second we couldn't expand if we wanted
       to. It seems clear to me that we can't, for the reasons above
       and more.
       #Post#: 122345--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Will Quine ever make a profit
   DIR By: Quinky
       Date: April 5, 2024, 11:47 pm
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       Hopefully the André (and maybe Jerry) payments, if anywhere near
       stated, will bolster finances for the current year, maybe even
       into profit.
       My main question is, who or what is "Quine"? 😁
       #Post#: 122346--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Will Quine ever make a profit
   DIR By: raedarius
       Date: April 6, 2024, 1:39 am
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       That's an easy one. Robert Quine was the guitarist of Richard
       Hell and the Voidoids. Everyone knows that...
       #Post#: 122347--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Will Quine ever make a profit
   DIR By: DOK
       Date: April 6, 2024, 2:06 am
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       Can't say if this is a WUM. However, if its not I wouldn't be
       surprised if its their one and only post if that's the reception
       they get!
       But as to the original question, there have been times we've
       nearly broke even, there have been times we've missed by a huge
       amount. Its not news you want to hear, but a constantly sold out
       Stoop is a sign ticket prices could rise. Increasing the salary
       cap is probably going to delay breaking even. As a club we have
       one of the largest turnovers in the Premiership, we just need to
       get those pesky costs driven down.
       So a bit of a ramble there, but breaking even is certainly a
       possibility in the future.
       #Post#: 122348--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Will Quine ever make a profit
   DIR By: DOK
       Date: April 6, 2024, 2:10 am
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       From the Torygraph
       Premiership Rugby clubs post losses of almost £25m for 2022-23
       season
       Saracens posted biggest losses of over £5 million, while
       Newcastle Falcons have not yet made their finances for 2022-23
       period public
       Ben Coles,
       RUGBY REPORTER
       29 March 2024 • 1:17pm
       65
       Nine of 10 Gallagher Premiership clubs have posted financial
       losses which total almost £25 million for the 2022-23 season.
       Newcastle Falcons have yet to publicly post their results for
       the last financial year but of the data available, nine clubs
       cumulatively made a loss of around £23.5 million.
       Saracens posted the biggest loss at £5,295,310, with the club’s
       turnover of £23,206,354 falling well short of their £28,559,147
       budget.
       Bristol Bears, backed by the billionaire Steve Lansdown,
       finished with a total loss of £4,554,814. Harlequins posted the
       highest turnover, £26,813,85, but had the largest budget at
       £30,392,791, resulting in a loss of £3,648.893.
       Advertisement
       Gloucester produced the best results due to having a budget of
       £18,291,675, which was marginally higher than the club’s
       turnover of £18,162,660, making an eventual loss of £393,079.
       Two other clubs produced losses which were below the half a
       million figure, with Sale making a £439,294 loss and Northampton
       a £467,836 loss.
       Sale notably had the lowest turnover, £11,735,339, but also the
       lowest budget of £16,496,292. They were also one of only two
       clubs, along with fellow Premiership finalists Saracens, to
       produce a positive net financing costs figure of £258,953.
       The results also disclose the number of people employed by each
       club, with Exeter recording the highest figure of 354 of which
       156 were coaches and players. Bristol employed the fewest number
       of people (155) and number of players and staff (87).
       Advertisement
       Exeter’s financial results, with a loss of £3,994,469, included
       the hotel built on site at Sandy Park, which made a loss of £2m
       over the course of the financial year. The hotel has since been
       sold off, with Exeter’s chairman and chief executive, Tony Rowe,
       buying an undisclosed stake in the Sandy Park Hotel back in
       December 2022 to help pay off the club’s Covid-19 loans.
       Exeter said at the time: “The fee paid for the shares by Mr Rowe
       not only provides an injection of capital to keep cashflow
       going, but will also help service substantial debts accrued by
       Exeter Rugby Club due to the impact of the Covid pandemic in
       2020. Directors will use “their best endeavours” to retain “at
       least” 26 per cent shareholding in the hotel company.”
       Premiership Rugby has been contacted for comment.
       #Post#: 122349--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Will Quine ever make a profit
   DIR By: Quinky
       Date: April 6, 2024, 2:27 am
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       --- Quote from: raedarius link ---
       >
       > That's an easy one. Robert Quine was the guitarist of Richard
       Hell and the Voidoids. Everyone knows that...
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Love Comes In Spurts... a fine track...
       #Post#: 122357--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Will Quine ever make a profit
   DIR By: Fairfax
       Date: April 6, 2024, 3:53 am
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       “Exeter said at the time: “The fee paid for the shares by Mr
       Rowe not only provides an injection of capital to keep cashflow
       going, but will also help service substantial debts accrued by
       Exeter Rugby Club due to the impact of the Covid pandemic in
       2020. Directors will use “their best endeavours” to retain “at
       least” 26 per cent shareholding in the hotel company.”
       Did they really say “best endeavours”?
       That means they will spend down to the last penny in the bank,
       which either means they are very generous, or will pile up the
       debt.
       #Post#: 122467--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Will Quine ever make a profit
   DIR By: deadlyfrom5yardsout
       Date: April 8, 2024, 3:05 am
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       It is still a matter of keeping an eye on the fluctuations in
       property values. Our owners are not fools and if something goes
       amiss with what is an appreciating asset currently the stream of
       "investment" may well become a trickle.
       #Post#: 122476--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Will Quine ever make a profit
   DIR By: gregory p
       Date: April 8, 2024, 7:08 am
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       Did the owners/club sell off the land on which the flats behind
       the east stand are built to help fund the west stand...or am I
       imagining that?  There is still a chunk of land there that could
       be developed still?  That might fund a bigger, permanent north
       stand say?  That does at least turn the capital into a potential
       source of long term revenue.
       I can still remember Quins holding training sessions on that
       site during half terms for young fans - I nicked all of my
       training drills from those sessions when I was blagging my way
       through mini-rugby coaching.
       #Post#: 122477--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Will Quine ever make a profit
   DIR By: gregory p
       Date: April 8, 2024, 7:09 am
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       --- Quote from: Quinky link ---
       >
       > Love Comes In Spurts... a fine track...
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       That thought has put me off my lunch!
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