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Re: DANNY CARE RETIRES FROM INTERNATIONAL RUGBY
DIR By: Quinky
Date: March 26, 2024, 7:16 am
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--- Quote from: Fearless Fred link ---
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> So, 5 different international coaches (and their various
coaching teams) opinion vs that of an internet poster. Hard to
know whose opinion to trust more... [emoji42]
>
--- End Quote ---
But this is no ordinary internet poster.
If Carlsberg did internet posters... Arsile would still think
they were wrong unless they idolise everything Sarries related.
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Re: DANNY CARE RETIRES FROM INTERNATIONAL RUGBY
DIR By: Quinky
Date: March 26, 2024, 7:17 am
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--- Quote from: Camquin link ---
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> Ben was I believe dropped from the Bath Academy, then moved to
Cambridge - then at level 4, where he soon established himself
as the first choice 9. The best 9 we ever had. Scored 150
points, would have been 152, but he missed a conversion -
slotted 58 out of 59.
>
> At the start of the next season. Cambridge arranged a training
session with the Saracens coaches, and Ben never came back.
Which did not help our season - not that you could hold that
against him.
>
> He joined Saracens when De Kock and Wigglesworth were injured,
so instantly started in European competitions, as well as
playing for England U20 and Saxons.
>
> Then, when they were fit, he had several seasons at the spare
not even warming the bench - until getting his chance.
>
> So absolute proof that the academy system is the best way to
develop top flight players.
>
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I ws sure he was supposed to have come through the Sarries
Academy... like evryone who ever donned a Sarries shirt. Even if
they didn't.
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Re: DANNY CARE RETIRES FROM INTERNATIONAL RUGBY
DIR By: Marsile
Date: March 26, 2024, 8:32 am
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--- Quote from: Quinky link ---
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> I ws sure he was supposed to have come through the Sarries
Academy... like evryone who ever donned a Sarries shirt. Even if
they didn't.
>
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He was 19 when he joined Saracens.
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Re: DANNY CARE RETIRES FROM INTERNATIONAL RUGBY
DIR By: poorfour
Date: March 26, 2024, 8:35 am
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--- Quote from: Marsile link ---
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>
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> He was 19 when he joined Saracens.
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And Care was 19 when he joined Quins, but we don't claim him as
an academy product because he did his academy time at Leeds (and
also went straight into first team consideration)
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Re: DANNY CARE RETIRES FROM INTERNATIONAL RUGBY
DIR By: Marsile
Date: March 26, 2024, 8:40 am
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--- Quote from: poorfour link ---
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> And Care was 19 when he joined Quins, but we don't claim him
as an academy product because he did his academy time at Leeds
(and also went straight into first team consideration)
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He was binned by Bath academy and playing level 4. I think it's
fair to say that Saracens had a positive impact on his rugby
career trajectory.
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Re: DANNY CARE RETIRES FROM INTERNATIONAL RUGBY
DIR By: RodneyRegis
Date: March 26, 2024, 9:13 am
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So what?
And not all that positive, he barely got a look in at
international level despite being the best 9 since joost.
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Re: DANNY CARE RETIRES FROM INTERNATIONAL RUGBY
DIR By: Marsile.
Date: March 26, 2024, 9:50 am
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Only Saracens players or players that came from the Saracens
Acedemy should qualify for England caps.
Players from other teams can get a chance to wear England shirts
playing against the Barbarians.
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Re: DANNY CARE RETIRES FROM INTERNATIONAL RUGBY
DIR By: JammyGit
Date: March 26, 2024, 10:51 am
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Spencer was wildly inconsistent for a while and it's not a huge
surprise he didn't pick up more caps. However it would be fair
to say he deserved to be in the mix more often over the years
because we never had a consistently good 9 for England.
It's doubly strange because he has a good combination of
excellent kicking (from hand and from the tee), good pace, and
excellent defence - and only Prime Youngs had all those.
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Re: DANNY CARE RETIRES FROM INTERNATIONAL RUGBY
DIR By: T-Bone
Date: March 26, 2024, 11:34 am
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Plenty of 9s should have had more of a chance ahead of youngs
imo. Heinz going to a world cup was a travesty.
Spencer probably should have had more caps, but probably not
instead of Danny.
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Re: DANNY CARE RETIRES FROM INTERNATIONAL RUGBY
DIR By: Marsile
Date: March 26, 2024, 11:45 am
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--- Quote from: RodneyRegis link ---
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> So what?
>
> And not all that positive, he barely got a look in at
international level despite being the best 9 since joost.
>
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Saracens picked him 172 times in 9 years including as the
starting 9 in a winning Premiership final and in a winning
European cup final. He also played as a sub in another winning
Premiership final and as a sub in a further two winning European
cup finals.
Rodney, "it's not all that positive"
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