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       Re: England v Ireland 
   DIR By: poorfour
       Date: March 7, 2024, 8:08 am
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       Anyway, squad's up:
       Starting
       15. George Furbank
       14. Immanuel Feyi-Waboso
       13. Henry Slade
       12. Ollie Lawrence
       11. Tommy Freeman
       10. George Ford – vice captain
       9. Alex Mitchell
       1. Ellis Genge – vice captain
       2. Jamie George – captain
       3. Dan Cole
       4. Maro Itoje – vice captain
       5. George Martin
       6. Ollie Chessum
       7. Sam Underhill
       8. Ben Earl
       Replacements
       16. Theo Dan
       17. Joe Marler
       18. Will Stuart
       19. Chandler Cunningham-South
       20. Alex Dombrandt
       21. Danny Care
       22. Marcus Smith
       23. Elliot Daly
       It looks a bit like at 55 minutes or so Borthwick might throw
       all 5 Quins on and see what they can do...
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       Re: England v Ireland 
   DIR By: poorfour
       Date: March 7, 2024, 8:09 am
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       And Lynagh joins the Italy starting lineup.
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       Re: England v Ireland 
   DIR By: crcv
       Date: March 7, 2024, 9:59 am
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       Danny Care joining the 100 club sat on the bench
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       Re: England v Ireland 
   DIR By: MaidstoneQuin
       Date: March 7, 2024, 11:00 am
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       How many bloody vice captains do we need? Maybe need another 3-4
       for good measure.
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       Re: England v Ireland 
   DIR By: T-Bone
       Date: March 7, 2024, 12:56 pm
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       Pleased for Danny. Great achievement, especially being out of
       the team for 4-5 years
       Good to see dombrandt getting a shot too
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       Re: England v Ireland 
   DIR By: Bod
       Date: March 7, 2024, 3:57 pm
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       I think Fleck has a decent point to express about Smith at this
       stage in his development
  HTML https://www.rugbypass.com/news/marcus-is-not-the-answer-i-dont-think-hes-got-what-it-takes/
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       Re: England v Ireland 
   DIR By: JammyGit
       Date: March 7, 2024, 4:00 pm
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       Yeah there's no evidence of Marcus unlocking a team like South
       Africa...
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       Re: England v Ireland 
   DIR By: poorfour
       Date: March 7, 2024, 4:36 pm
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       Fleck’s solution appears to be that England should play Finn
       Russell.
       I know that eligibility laws have changed, but even with that I
       don’t think it’s an option.
       I also know that in his earlier years Russell made exactly the
       same sort of mistakes that Marcus does: trying to play options
       that stick at club level but don’t work at international level,
       going for the miracle pass too often.
       Marcus still has to fine-tune his timing for the pace and space
       of international games. He’s been hampered in doing that by
       being deployed inconsistently, in attacking systems that don’t
       suit him, with players who aren’t giving him the options he
       needs, and out of position. Although he’s accumulated a decent
       number of caps, we’ve not seen him have a run of games with a
       consistent side who have been picked and coached to give him
       multiple attacking options.
       Give him a run of games in a system that works with his talents,
       and only then make a judgement.
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       Re: England v Ireland 
   DIR By: T-Bone
       Date: March 7, 2024, 4:39 pm
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       --- Quote from: Bod link ---
       >
       > I think Fleck has a decent point to express about Smith at
       this stage in his development
       >
       >
  HTML https://www.rugbypass.com/news/marcus-is-not-the-answer-i-dont-think-hes-got-what-it-takes/
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Hus point is "I've decided he's not good enough"
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       Re: England v Ireland 
   DIR By: RodneyRegis
       Date: March 8, 2024, 3:03 am
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       --- Quote from: poorfour link ---
       >
       > Anyway, squad's up:
       >
       > Starting
       >
       > 15. George Furbank
       > 14. Immanuel Feyi-Waboso
       > 13. Henry Slade
       > 12. Ollie Lawrence
       > 11. Tommy Freeman
       > 10. George Ford – vice captain
       > 9. Alex Mitchell
       >
       > 1. Ellis Genge – vice captain
       > 2. Jamie George – captain
       > 3. Dan Cole
       > 4. Maro Itoje – vice captain
       > 5. George Martin
       > 6. Ollie Chessum
       > 7. Sam Underhill
       > 8. Ben Earl
       >
       > Replacements
       >
       > 16. Theo Dan
       > 17. Joe Marler
       > 18. Will Stuart
       > 19. Chandler Cunningham-South
       > 20. Alex Dombrandt
       > 21. Danny Care
       > 22. Marcus Smith
       > 23. Elliot Daly
       >
       > It looks a bit like at 55 minutes or so Borthwick might throw
       all 5 Quins on and see what they can do...
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Or, England stay in touch in an awful, scrappy game until 70
       minutes when Ireland finally pull ahead with a couple of quick
       tries. Borthwick throws Smith on to try and win it by himself.
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