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       Re: Fake atmosphere 
   DIR By: SiB
       Date: February 14, 2024, 4:22 pm
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       --- Quote from: T-Bone link ---
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       > I didn't find the music for fights, yellow cards, etc
       offensive, just a bit lame. Especially as we obviously only did
       it for the away team. Made us look a bit silly when we lost.
       It's the sort of thing people would hammer sarries for,
       especially the music when the other team ran on, like coronation
       street, brand new harvester
       >
       > Having said that, those tunes beat "riiiise, riiiise,
       riiiiiiise"
       >
       > Have to agree there can’t stand that riiise
       > What’s wrong with Joker and London Calling
       >
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       #Post#: 120046--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fake atmosphere 
   DIR By: championes
       Date: February 14, 2024, 4:35 pm
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       > It is the modern world
       > Organisers of sports event seem to think that people are
       incapable of watching sport without loud music at every break
       > This has now crept in at the Stoop
       > It totally kills the atmosphere
       > Was at  Brentford game when at the end they played Hey Jude
       (which is a song I detest) and some hideous rap song and
       incredible loud levels.
       > Fans were not cheering their team but singing along - just had
       nothing to do with sport
       > It was impossible to chat to my mates just behind me
       > When  I go to sport I want to enjoy the atmosphere of live
       sport otherwise I amy as well sit at home and watch on TV or in
       the pub,  not listen to loud music which may not be my personal
       choice.
       > I assume that the people who decide that this is what punters
       desire are  youg kids who have done a marketing course and spend
       their life on a phone and cannot enjoy the moment.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I’m 55 and think it’s great. Drowns out the old farts boring on
       about the old days.
       #Post#: 120055--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fake atmosphere 
   DIR By: Camquin
       Date: February 15, 2024, 3:45 am
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       I think it is OK to have walk on music, be that Mighty Quin, the
       theme from Jaws or Smoke on the Water.
       And acceptable to have a tune you play if you win.
       But leave it at that.
       #Post#: 120110--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fake atmosphere 
   DIR By: DOK
       Date: February 17, 2024, 7:14 am
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       > Very annoying when they play music during breaks in play at
       the stoop
       >
       > The rubbish product on the pitch at Twickenham is the problem
       >
       > Then the piped in noise kills any organic atmosphere
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       There's no "I so so absolutely agree with you" button so I'm
       writing this. I can understand the music before the game, music
       at half time, music at full time. But what is the point of 30
       seconds of some random track just because play has stopped
       briefly?
       In the old days, playing "these boots were made for walking" as
       the opposition picked up a yellow card or "all we are saying is
       give peace a chance" as a fight broke out (I use the word
       loosely), that was amusing. But are the crowd getting so
       restless after a minute of no play that someone has to say "turn
       on the music before they turn on us!"?
       #Post#: 120111--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fake atmosphere 
   DIR By: Brown Bottle
       Date: February 17, 2024, 7:29 am
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       During the 2023 RWC the ball was in play for an average of 34
       mins 18 secs. That leaves 45 minutes plus 10-20 minutes when the
       clock is stopped.
       That's an awful lot of dead time.
       Perhaps spectators, especially newcomers, just get bored in the
       gaps.
       #Post#: 120114--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fake atmosphere 
   DIR By: DOK
       Date: February 17, 2024, 7:46 am
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       I appreciate that BB, but I'm saying the slices of time are what
       annoys me. Yes, tell me there's 55 minutes of dead time to fill,
       play the music. It's why I said I have no trouble with them
       filling half time with music. And yes, if it looks like being a
       long break, player down, doctors clustered round, cart called on
       the pitch - play some music (though I don't understand why).
       But 30 seconds? Then some rugby. Then another 60 seconds (of a
       different track). Then some rugby....Then a break in play with
       no music. Then some rugby...  I admit, I'm the first to buy into
       Mark Evan's view we're in the entertainment business. And we
       are, and we do and we're very good at it. I just think music at
       practically every break in play is over the top.
       #Post#: 120116--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fake atmosphere 
   DIR By: Brown Bottle
       Date: February 17, 2024, 8:25 am
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       No, fair enough, DOK. I pretty much agree with you re. the
       music. I just thought it was worth mentioning.
       #Post#: 120117--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fake atmosphere 
   DIR By: SiB
       Date: February 17, 2024, 8:35 am
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       --- Quote from: Brown Bottle link ---
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       > During the 2023 RWC the ball was in play for an average of 34
       mins 18 secs. That leaves 45 minutes plus 10-20 minutes when the
       clock is stopped.
       >
       > That's an awful lot of dead time.
       >
       > Perhaps spectators, especially newcomers, just get bored in
       the gaps.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Or maybe gives enough time for supporters to build the
       atmosphere
       But the stadiums seem to be so afraid that this won’t happen
       Can remember at Stade when we had around a thousand singing “
       Maybe it’s because I’m a Londoner, and the French responding
       with "La Marseillaise“ just brilliant
       Or Sale away when the Sale owner bought a round of drinks after
       a Friday night game and said we where the loudest away support
       they had in years
       Listen to the noise at Cardiff recently, no music interpreted
       the atmosphere
       #Post#: 120121--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fake atmosphere 
   DIR By: Brown Bottle
       Date: February 17, 2024, 9:42 am
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       --- Quote from: SiB link ---
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       > Or maybe gives enough time for supporters to build the
       atmosphere
       > But the stadiums seem to be so afraid that this won’t happen
       >
       > Can remember at Stade when we had around a thousand singing “
       Maybe it’s because I’m a Londoner, and the French responding
       with "La Marseillaise“ just brilliant
       > Or Sale away when the Sale owner bought a round of drinks
       after a Friday night game and said we where the loudest away
       support they had in years
       > Listen to the noise at Cardiff recently, no music interpreted
       the atmosphere
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Well, I'm not really sure how nothing happening is conducive to
       creating an atmosphere.
       Notable that your 3 examples are all away. Not sure France and
       Wales count as they have a different attitude. Sale away and,
       what, 30? of you being the loudest away support they'd had for
       years? Sadly I can believe that. 😁
       I'm sure you've been at the Stoop on a miserable day watching a
       grim game on many an occasion; remember the atmosphere then?
       Anyway, it's not me you need to argue with as I'm not interested
       in wall to wall music at rugby, as I said above.
       #Post#: 120125--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fake atmosphere 
   DIR By: SiB
       Date: February 17, 2024, 10:04 am
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       Sorry thought you mentioned dead ball time and hence the music
       was needed
       Yep been at some dire games at the Stoop and further afield, and
       doubt music would make them any better, so both agree then
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