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       #Post#: 120191--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Andre off?
   DIR By: poorfour
       Date: February 19, 2024, 4:59 am
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       --- Quote from: MaidstoneQuin link ---
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       > We are going to be pretty underwhelming next season at this
       rate!
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       We are going to lose some good players. But so is every club
       that hasn't been... shall we say "creative"? ... with their
       salary cap accounting.
       At the moment most clubs are thought to be operating well above
       the theoretical cap limit because they are allowed to honour
       contracts signed ahead of the lower cap being agreed. As those
       contracts come up for renewal, clubs are either going to have to
       do an amazing job of persuading players to play for less, or
       lose those players to clubs and leagues that can afford to pay
       for them.
       Quins won't be the only team to have a weaker squad next year
       than this. The question is how we do relatively speaking. Losing
       Andre and Louis when we might have expected to keep them gives
       Quins a bit more headroom to play with and potentially creates
       space to buy in a replacement.
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       Re: Andre off?
   DIR By: T-Bone
       Date: February 19, 2024, 6:14 am
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       Northmore is not a great option at 12 based on the few
       appearances he's made there. Hyde and Bradley both look big. Not
       sure their preferred positions.
       #Post#: 120200--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Andre off?
   DIR By: stoop2conquer
       Date: February 19, 2024, 6:47 am
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       Ollie Lawrence's best position is 13 and he's very injury prone.
       He would also be expensive. Assuming that, even with a healthy
       transfer fee, Quins will doubtless not be rolling in money, I'd
       prefer to giver Lennox Anyanwu a chance but we would need
       another 12 as cover/competition for him - maybe from our
       Academy? Not ideal but no worse in comparative terms to where
       England are at the moment.
       #Post#: 120201--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Andre off?
   DIR By: MaidstoneQuin
       Date: February 19, 2024, 6:57 am
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       Sam Spink would be my pick. Lets make it happen quinsssss
       #Post#: 120203--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Andre off?
   DIR By: QuincyJones
       Date: February 19, 2024, 7:03 am
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       Ngani Laumape for a few years will do.
       #Post#: 120204--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Andre off?
   DIR By: JammyGit
       Date: February 19, 2024, 7:16 am
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       There's so few players like that though - we're better off
       adjusting to what we have available. It's not like you need an
       Andre to win the title.
       Hyde and Bradley both look like they could become serious
       players and Lennox is no mug; altering our style of play to suit
       the talents of the crop of players we have makes more sense than
       putting all our eggs in one basket.
       #Post#: 120206--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Andre off?
   DIR By: poorfour
       Date: February 19, 2024, 8:26 am
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       --- Quote from: JammyGit link ---
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       > There's so few players like that though - we're better off
       adjusting to what we have available. It's not like you need an
       Andre to win the title.
       >
       > Hyde and Bradley both look like they could become serious
       players and Lennox is no mug; altering our style of play to suit
       the talents of the crop of players we have makes more sense than
       putting all our eggs in one basket.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       A lot comes down to how ready those three are for prime time.
       Hyde and Bradley have both looked good when I have seen them
       play, but I've not seen them against top opposition. If we do
       recruit, I don't suppose there's a chance we could spring Olly
       Hartley from Saracens? He looks to me like he could be a good
       fit to our style of play.
       #Post#: 120207--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Andre off?
   DIR By: RodneyRegis
       Date: February 19, 2024, 9:13 am
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       This is extremely disappointing if it transpires to be right.
       12 is probably the position in world rugby with the biggest
       shortage right now, and absolutely in the premiership. Andre was
       a massive point of difference for us. Lawrence would be a good
       signing, but he's a 13 and a very different player to Andre. I'm
       afraid that lennox is not really fit to tie his bootlaces.
       Northmore can cover in a pinch if he's ever fit, but so what?
       The effectiveness of a top 12 is the perfect foil to Marcus.
       #Post#: 120208--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Andre off?
   DIR By: Twickersman
       Date: February 19, 2024, 9:19 am
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       Lennox deserves his chance to show what he can do at 12 if
       Esterhauzien is to leave. He is not as big as Esterhauizen, but
       then who is?
       The young lad Sam Kerr, who played for England u20s at 12 is in
       our academy. He looks like if he bulks up, could be a decent 12.
       With Hyde and Bradley, we have a good group of young
       up-and-coming 12s.
       I guess the squeeze in the player cap, is going to mean we rely
       more on these youngsters.
       #Post#: 120209--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Andre off?
   DIR By: Quinten Poulsen
       Date: February 19, 2024, 9:33 am
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       Sean Kerr is a pretty smooth operator but no amount of bulking
       up will make him an imposing presence. I think we just have to
       accept that we have to move on with players who aren't in
       Andre's class. I'm very annoyed he's leaving but also appreciate
       he's one of those once in a generation players who's pretty much
       impossible to replace. Lenny and Bradley have plenty of
       potential to be good premiership players at a minimum. Plus I
       read somewhere that Lawrence is under a longish term contract so
       presumably we'd have to pay a transfer fee, and I'd prefer we
       didn't do that.
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